A possible Dash replacement

  • @bhdouglass And Thank you for your time and effort too.

  • @bhdouglass I fully agree with you. Also I think that Ubuntu Touch still stays unique because of the launcher on the left side and the top menu. But it looks like there are a lot of different opinions about this topic and I dont want that the community splits so maybe we should make it easy to install different "homescreens" from the OpenStore which replaces automatically the current one. Like installing an android launcher. The dash button then will just point to another app, which can not be closed, and in the settings you can set which app should be the homescreen. So everyone can costumize his Ubuntu Phone in his/her own way and the most popular "homescreen" can become the default.

  • @krille I was about to say the same thing :D. I think it's a bit trivial to replace the dash with something else since it's basically just an app. Sprint would be good for new users or users that prefer traditional home screens.
    But I'd stick with my opinion that it'll be an overlap on the app drawer.

    Personally, I would like to see a blank "home" or something like a one-pager scope. It shows notifications, events, favorite contacts, monitoring, etc....I guess something like the Events page in SFOS? πŸ™‚

  • Thank you for your work in writing this app.
    I personally am not a fan of an app grid. I think we all are smart and creative people to come up with something better. I liked the idea what Microsoft did with Windows Phone. Different size of the "icon" depending on the importance of the app to the user and also some information on whats going on inside the app. I think something similar would be the way to go.

  • @unisuperbox said in A possible Dash replacement:

    You're discussing context-based computing, in a way. Maybe you'd like to expand your thoughts in the Design section?

    Ok. Thank you for the suggestion. I will try to explain this idea in "design"

  • @kugiigi in a word, you're looking for a Today scope as homescreen?

  • Been playing around with it quite a bit and I really like what you're doing and appreciate the familiarity. The dash reminds me more of iOS whereas Sprint is more "Android-like" so I appreciate it. As I mentioned in another thread, I do think there are better and more efficient ways to do launchers than combinations of grids and cards. With my personal flow and aesthetic preferences, I was really enjoying Niagara Launcher on Android and would love something more akin to that, BUT, everything will have different opinions on what a launcher should be. Definitely following development on Sprint and thanks for the awesome work!

  • I have used this as a dash replacement the last days and I still love it. I have to say: Yes it is very like Android. But it is also very like FirefoxOS, very like TizenOS, Plasma Mobile, even a little bit like iOS. A classic appgrid just has proven itself like a desktop with icons and one or two panels (Forget Gnome3 :-P). Even WIndows Phone has an app grid which just has some eye candy bling bling effects and different sizes. And dont forget that we STILL have the unique selling point: The launcher at the left and the swipe gestures which are still undefeated! And of course we still blame Samsung with our REAL convergence πŸ˜›

    So I only see advantages with your idea and I would like to have this as default.

  • @krille It really feel like FirefoxOS. I had played with Boot2Gecko before, it was neet. Anyway, it should be optional, every user can decide for him/herself. We have a saying in Slovakia, "100 people - 100 tastes"
    This would only benefit the Opensource UT, give consumers options, not restrictions.

  • @stefano said in A possible Dash replacement:

    We have a saying in Slovakia, "100 people - 100 tastes"

    My personal modified version is "100 people - 200 tastes" πŸ˜ƒ

  • I love Unity, that's a known fact but I love Sprint because lets you use icon packs.
    However, I don't think Sprint should be the default launcher.

  • In germany we say 'ask two people and you'll get three opinions' πŸ™‚
    Lets make the empty Sprint the default 'background'/home screen... Noone is forced to put any app icons on it. Additionally lets make it interchangeable/configurable maybe, s.t. the user is able to set an arbitrary app as home screen. (we could let the user define multiple apps as home screen and use the same left/right swipe mechanic as for scopes now.)
    Then lets think about what the ideas have in common that were brought up here:

    Whereas in the later we wont have scopes indeed but only apps and an interface where they can provide/consume information to/from each other as @Krille has suggested in the first.

  • Hi guys, I love the new Sprint design, a step forward that I can see well in the case of any change, and gives the user the ability to change the home screen, a fresh view of the home screen. We can put a family photo without the icons blocking it.
    We could add widgets as well, but there are two things that are missing in this change: the current white background is horrible, I think it's better to put the Ubuntu colors or add transparency at least, and something that I think UT is lacking is that developers shouldn't place the buttons in any place they want, you must promote a set of design rules to make the system homogeneous. I like the lower button for everything, or an arrow pointing upwards, like in the youtube app for example, although there are people who like more the traditional way, the buttons in the top area, me too, whatever the choice, all applications treated equally.
    I think it would be a good time for a change. Sorry for my english...thank you Bhdouglass for your dedication and hard work.
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  • @josele13 turn settings->background->dash-background on to get your background image as background in sprint too.
    concerning the buttons I'm not completely sure what you mean. I think its relatively consistent for core apps. everything else is up to the freedom of the app developers.

  • I really like the idea of being able to swap out the dash by installing a new click. Would go a long way for customization for our users.

  • @bhdouglass said in A possible Dash replacement:

    I really like the idea of being able to swap out the dash by installing a new click. Would go a long way for customization for our users.

    I really like the idea of being able to swap out everything by installing a new click. Would go a long way for customization for our users. πŸ˜‰

  • I am testing sprint on my Nexus 5 (16.04 RC). I like this desktop very much at least because there is a structure possible and icon packs can be used. Here some suggestions for next steps:

    • It would be nice to swipe left on this desktop to have than browser bookmarks to start directly web pages (like we had it in 15.04 with the bookmark browser). Or maybe something like a double screen. And probably bookmark icons should be smaller than app icons (5 icons in one row).

    • I would like to change text size separately (because they overlap)

    • It would be nice to change the place of the icons on the screen. Actually I can place them only at the first time when adding to the desktop.

    • Is it possible to autostart sprint? (and maybe autohide standard 'Anwendungen'?)

  • @hummlbach I think that developers should make a meeting, talk about it and decide a format, at least on the first screen, in any desktop app you see the 3 buttons close, minimize and large screen, or you also see in the second line File, Edit, View History, Bookmarks ........... everything in order, but that can be discussed later on another topic ..

    an idea that has crossed my mind is to slide the arrow up the apps come out, could be put in differentiated order or adding more screens :
    1ΒΊ apps of Ut
    2nd apps of Anbox
    3rd Apps of Libertine

    is a suggestion of mine,


  • Hi! I will give my opinion as well, even if others already had similar arguments to mine.
    Well, I'm really sorry to say it like that, but I sincerely hope that this will not be the future dash of Ubports...
    For me Ubuntu Touch is an alternative OS to Android and the mainstream mobile OSs, that's why I think that what's special on it is to be different.
    I hope the dash to look more like that : https://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-touch-vibrant-venice-concept-is-absolutely-stunning-493303.shtml
    Of course it was conceived with the scopes (<3), but in my opinion it was one of the best things of UT...
    Nevertheless, thank you for keeping to work hardly on the OS πŸ™‚ !!

  • I have been lurking here for a while now and I will try to sum up what I think are some of the best suggestions. None of the following is intended to be a criticism of any other ideas, just my random thoughts about what I would like to see. The basic idea of Sprint is excellent but it needs the ability to move icons once they have been placed, and a means to categorise apps. The obvious mechanism for this already exists in the '.desktop' files.

    The HOME screen should be as clean as possible but fully customisable, and show any widgets placed there. By way of explanation of a possible mechanism, imagine a long vertical ribbon with collapsible sections, and the HOME screen at the middle. Below the HOME is everything RECENT and above is FAVORITES & CATEGORIES. HOME should effectively be DESKTOP and if larger than the current device screen could just scroll up and down as appropriate.

    Widgets on the HOME would be active and automatically show latest information. Eg. Time, Weather, News headlines, etc. It could be argued that HOME screen could also control Login. For privacy, the HOME screen should not show anything other than generic info from the widgets. Attempts to slide the ribbon in any direction would prompt for password. The existing circle lock screen (without the lock) could be reduced to a widget within the HOME.

    Once logged in HOME would display 2 icon bars, one above and one below HOME. See https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/max_3840/8d38e429848255.560b1cb20aad9.jpg for the lower bar representing each category of RECENT, eg, music, pics, documents, files, apps, etc. A similar icon bar at the top indicating categories of apps extracted from the .desktop files. These 2 bars should not scroll (ie would remain visible) until the HOME has left the viewed section of ribbon.

    Clicking an icon on the 'recent' bar would display relevant files from that section of the ribbon. HOME could also be slid upwards to show sections of the ribbon corresponding to the icons; each section having a separator bar with the Icon, Section title (which scrolls horizontally if insufficient space), Expand and Contract buttons (^,v) and a home button. Initially only 1 row of most recent files would be displayed. This would allow quick up/down scrolling. Clicking Expand would show more files. A second Expand would launch a helper to extract info from files in that section, eg Artist, Album name, etc for music tracks; EXIF info for photos; Openstore description for Apps; etc.

    Clicking an Icon on the top bar would show the appropriate category of apps, again with a separator bar. In a similar manner to recent items, clicking Expand once would show the most recently used within the category, and a second Expand would show description info from the .desktop file. Continuing to scroll up would show Favorite Apps, Categories (as declared in .desktop) and ALL.

    I would propose also to introduce another meta-file (say .app_space) to perform GIEMM's 'universe' idea. This file could be stored in the same location as .desktop files (~/.local/share/applications) and a short_tap/leftclick could open a helper which displays a 'flower' similar to the navigation buttons which you can currently drag up from the bottom of some apps, each petal performing a different action. The .app_space file would have a similar structure to .desktop and declare a Description, Categories and an action & icon for each 'petal'. Actions would be URLs where appropriate, or executable with startup parameters to invoke different behaviours for an app.

    Rather than needing to have a separate area for selecting apps to add to the favorite screen, I would propose that a longpress on ANY icon should allow you to 'Launch, 'Unlock' to move within a Category display, 'Add to Favorites', 'Add to another Category', 'Remove' from Category, 'Uninstall'. Any changes to info held in a .desktop (or .app_space) would automatically save/update a local copy ( in ~/.local/share/applications). This action would be performed by a special xxx.app_space which responds to any to a longpress on any .desktop/.app_space file in order to implement the above add/remove/uninstall actions.

    By allowing .app_space files to also have Categories, they can effectively be pinned to say Recent Comms. Also you could pin a games.app_space into Recent Apps to keep your 4-8 most favorite games on a single 'flower'

    A question one should ask is: why do OSes need a taskbar? If you have a folder/ribbon section for RECENT apps, by definition anything running IS recent.

    Proposed ribbon:
    HOME <-- ribbon always opens here and scrolls down and up to view other sections
    Recent Apps <-- includes runnig apps (no need for separate taskbar)
    Recent Communications
    Recent Documents
    Recent Downloads
    Recent Music
    Recent Pictures
    Recent Video


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