What is your main points for a perfect personal phone operative system?
I agree with you too, @mariogrip . I went all-in in February with Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus 4. It feels very good to have the increased freedom, but it comes at some cost. The things I'm having trouble with so far:
- Lack of access to important apps.
- Browser crash and wouldn't start again until rebooting the phone.
- Alarm clock sometimes does not go off, or goes off late (10-20 minutes).
- Buggy and poor navigation and usability in text fields (e.g. typing sms).
- Sudden restarts.
- Lack of input languages (in my case Thai language).
- Volume control crash and requires reboot to come back.
- Phone low responsive to input.
- Significantly shorter battery time.
I think my hope for continued development, proper convergence and the freedom helps me stay with Ubuntu on my phone, but in the long-term I don't know.
Special thanks to everyone not giving up despite the lack of Canonical support!
For me, the personal phone operating system would have a good app ecosystem with a lot of freedom to choose what you would like to do with your device. Hackable, customizable, fast, smooth and easy to use. A good UI that does not get in the way of the user, and also easy to install periodic security updates (Like in the Linux desktop). But really the make it or break it has to be the app ecosystem, a device would be worthless without a good app ecosystem.
- open hardware (ok, thats not the OS) from fair production (Hello, Fairphone)
- open source OS (meaning Gnu/Linux, incl. drivers and firmwares, if possible, and long term updates)
- as little dependencies on Android and vendors as possible
- convergence would be a nice-to-have
Because this does not exist atm, I do not own a smartphone. Still thinking, if I should get a Fairphone or a Neo 900 (unclear, what's happening there) or a Zerophone). Or if I should wait, if ever some crowdfunding project will offer, what I want.
WLBI last edited by WLBI
@WLBI You will be able to use larger displays later on, if you want. BTW: David Hunt made a PiPhone 3 years ago ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eaiNsFhtI8 ) ... With some optimization, which the ZeroPhone does, this really is a complete handheld computer and phone. Maybe even almost entirely open source soon, because open GPU-drivers are coming along, and there are efforts for an open firmware.
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- I totally agree about freedom of software and freedom from getting tracked everywhere I go.
- related to freedom is security. This is a major point if I want to use it as my everyday phone.
- Equally important I think is that a stable base is needed. What I mean is that it is not enough to be able to say "we have bluetooth" or "we have miracast" . I mean if it is there, it should also really be working and be compatible to thirdparty devices. Lets not get trapped but featurism . And all this does not only apply to BT and eathercast.
- Anbox will certainly make transition easier for all people coming from Android. (including me)
Personally right now things beyond this are already a bonus at the moment. In my case things that I miss are:
- vpn support for cisco (vpnc) based vpns
- great would be an integrated SIP client
- convergence could become interesting but right now other missing things are more painful und thus they seem more important.
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The reason I support the UBports project is because I believe that the current duopoly of mobile operating systems isn't helpful for anybody. I also think that Google and Apple collect way too much information on their users and aren't open enough about what this data contains and what it's used for.
In order to become a daily driver, Ubuntu Touch would need to be stable, updatable on device, use minimal battery life, and have a stopgap system in place to allow android apps to run if they're absolutely essential. Of course this android app compatibility would only be a temporary measure until the native software selection became more robust.
Perhaps linking into the Amazon app store or F-Droid might be a good plan?
However I'm not a developer so I don't fully understand the complexities of running Android apps on a mobile Linux environment. I would fully expect a lot of fiddling to be required to make an app compatible, and perhaps what would be needed is a seperate, user maintained repository of compatible android apps and installation instructions.
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For me a personal phone is one where I dictate what to share and what not.
Freedom in the sense that I can choose to use no cloud, my personal one, or a more public one.
Freedom to install apps I want, so for this we still need to look at anbox or the likes as app devs wont quickly develop for UBports.
And then there is battery life... Should not be worst then the default OS.
Lastly a nice and friendly GUI, but Ubuntu Touch does it best.
But the real reason for me to be here aside the personal aspect is convergence. One device. My dream.
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VPN support for cisco (vpnc)
UBPorts-Image support for Nexus7 2013 wifi
Stable devices & software
Fully integrated with standards like : Mail, Caldav, Webdav, Carddav etc...
Strong base software : Mail, GPS, Communication, Browser
Backup like dejadup on ubuntu desktop
LAN-sync on auto-connection to lan-target like nas selected folders on the mobile-device
And very important for protecting our health !!! - The killer feature in my opinion -> Timer for ubuntu touch flight mode (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux/+bug/1655854) i ask also on launchpad
Thank for the good job on OpenStore, Telegram, LoquiIM, UNav and all the other things around UbuntuTouch. I believe in you ... please keep UbuntuTouch alive.
I want just to have the ability to migrate running applications from desktop to phone and vice versa. Obviously in order to do that, as a start you need to have the same OS/apps in both systems (see convergence).
Also an important issue for me with today's phones is that applications come from different vendors and there are no common frameworks for interoperability, especially related to context information each application can handle. For example I would love to have a phone that based on my current status (ie on a meeting), which can be inferred by the calendar application's context, automatically switches to silent mode, or if it automatically switches to vibration mode if you are in a noisy environment, or if during the night turns to silent mode (based on the lights level and location) and allows only calls from people in your contact list to wake you up, etc.
Hope yuniy will get there
to have anbox working for those that want Ubuntu,but need android for certain apps,for banks,and stuff like that.
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I want to work as in Desktop, no OTA updates, sudo apt update for do this, or a GUI like Software&Updates for the people don't want to use the terminal emulator, freedom to do everything on the system basically without stupid limitations.
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I agree with all your points.
I need a smartphone that is also a smart-assistant for my works and that keep (or try to keep) google or any other patriotact approved company away from my data.
Also a Phone that is easily hackable is a must to make my phone cover my needs and this is connected to another point in my wishlist: the phone should be useful for the open communities and the onlus. eg: On the "market" I should be able to directly donate money, see/contribute to the sourcecode and directly login and communicate with the community behind the develop of the apps or see their news/blog post. the smartphone should give an independent and easily way to keep communities in contact, share information/allert with their affiliates and interact with them. so, long story short, what really mater is an opensource SO, based on opensource services, with an easy and powerful sdk
Sconio last edited by Sconio
Voici se que j'attend de mon Meizu pro 5 sous UBport dans le future :
Utiliser les applications Fenêtré comme en Scène ;
Tox "uTox, qTox..." (alternative à Skype)
Un gestionnaire de téléchargement "comme IDM" Open Source.
Un Gestionnaire de protocol SIP.
PS: Comment se procurer votre appareil de convergence USB/HDMI ?
(si commercialiser) ou ( les plans.)
Here is what I expect from my Meizu pro 5 under UBport in the future: :
Use Windowed and Scene Applications ;
Tox "uTox, qTox..." (alternative Skype)
A download manager "like IDM" Open Source.
A SIP protocol manager.
PS: *How do I get your converged USB/HDMI device
(If commercializing) or (the plans.)
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More and more people die on CANCER!!! - 8% per year in saxony/germany since 2012 and growing
Please develop a timer for ubuntu-touch flight-mode to reduce microwave-ray for example at night when the phone lie near the body and is used as alarm clock.
Microwave ray like bluetooth, wlan, lte, umts, gsm, ... becomes under suspicion to increase cancer.
By the way we would have a great feature to have an simple option for automatic turn on and off the mobile radio modules for digital freedom at evening.
A Timer for ubuntu touch flight mode could be the solution for our health and digital freedom.
Aditional it is an option to safe power in a unused time of the phone.
Is see the campaign:
Ubuntu Touch is healthy! - for your privacy and body - NO tracing and REDUCED microwave-ray
Dear UBPorts-Team and Community ... thanks for protecting our health and making UbuntuTouch healthy.
(Germany / Saxony / Chemnitz)
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Additional for browser-privancy:
FireGloves is a great project for browser-privacy:
It works like a random generator for the public values of the useragent.
Is it possible to integrate this in the browser?
(Germany / Saxony / Chemnitz)
yes and for me develope please a microwave-heater function for the coffee-mug ... dont panic! radiation makes smart a lot of superheroes where born with it...joke... no really there are a lot of testings by factories and goverments about the radiation-story. if it would be a powerfull electric magnetic radiation.... you would see it... the battery would not survive a minute because radiotation needs a energysource...and by now the mobile-phones have not enugh power in the battery to cook your head. i have a simple microwave-broadband- measurement-device from the grocery-store ....there was silence and never a allert by mobile-phone-antennas .
yes and for me develope please a microwave-heater function for the coffee-mug
Say no more, i'll file an enhancement proposal. TO THE ISSUE TRACKER!
@NeoTheThird oh.... iam quiet ..silent as a mice :0)