• @orthocube There is no such thing as a dumb question 😉

  • @PINE64 said in PinePhone:

    The following is just my guess: most users will end up using either UT or SailfishOS. At least initially.

    UT or SailfishOS? I know that the Pinephone already allows for booting a secondary system from an SD card, which is cool. But how about offering a way to multi-boot from internal storage? That would be super cool. 😎

    Down the road I think that Replicant will have a big install base.

    Yep. And although I won't score many upvotes for saying so, if I owned a Pinephone, provided I had an easy way to install and boot both, I'd probably install Ubuntu Touch and Replicant (Android) to the internal storage. I'd use UT whenever practical. But I'd likely need to boot into Replicant at least occasionally until Anbox is better supported.

  • @GizmoChicken I would assume though that this will be easier to do but I don't know the technicalities so I might be wrong. But I agree that it would be cool to multi-boot. 16GB of internal storage can be a little low though.
    My 32GB Nexus 5 has Android, Sailfish OS and 3 UT and it's almost full 😅

  • @kugiigi 16GB for android is a very narrow storage.
    System requires at least 5GB and apps take a huge lot, for few apps you can count 6GB for your data and alternative OS that's not enough.
    Moving apps to SD card is not always possible on android and there's still data stored on the main internal storage.

    But I agree multiboot would be a cool feature, but I guess for later "special edition".

  • @AppLee said in PinePhone:

    @kugiigi 16GB for android is a very narrow storage.

    I think that's the point that @kugiigi was making. And I agree with both of you. 🙂

    Even so, I think that a way to multi-boot from internal storage (even if only 16GB at present) should be offered in the initial model, or as soon as possible, as a proof-of-concept. If successful, PinePhone will have more incentive to offer upgraded models with larger internal storage.

  • I have thought that you can boot a system from the SD Card as well.

  • @makeixo said in PinePhone:

    I have thought that you can boot a system from the SD Card as well.

    Yes, you can boot the PinePhone from an SD card. But SD cards are typically slower, and less reliable, than internal storage.

  • Question: Will libhybris be required for running UT on the PinePhone?

    I'm under the impression that libhybris will not be required for running UT on the PinePhone, but maybe I'm wrong. I hope someone will confirm here with certainty.

    EDIT: According to this post, libhybris is, indeed, not required for running UT on the PinePhone. Yippie! 😌

  • Hi all,
    For those of you happy to help with development and testing, the PinePhone early batch (Brave Heart) edition are now available on our store. Do note: if you want an end-user ready phone DO NOT buy it.

  • @PINE64 Please, can you give more details or clarify this:

    « Small numbers (1-3) of stuck or dead pixels are a characteristic of LCD screens. These are normal and should not be considered a defect. »

    You mean: every third pixel?

    Is it all about the phones or is it just the «fruit of chance » ?

    Does this defective pixel characteristic only concern this edition or will it also concern the completed edition in March?

    Thank you.

  • @domubpkm honestly, it doesn't mean anything. I am yet to see a single person complain about dead pixels on the Pinebook / Pro or any other LCD display we've shipped. But its a 1-1000 chance (actual stats) that there will be a dead pixel on a shipped unit, and we cannot control this, and we won't replace units with a dead pixel.

  • @PINE64 Yeah \o/
    I refreshed my browser all morning until could place an order 🤩

  • @PINE64 said in PinePhone:

    ... the PinePhone early batch (Brave Heart) edition are now available on our store.

    WOOT! WOOT!! What a glorious day it is.

  • I am feeling brave and my OPO has been dropped too many times for comfort, so I decided why the heck not...

    It'll be my first new phone since I bought a Nexus 5 back in the stone ages!

  • I just ordered mine. I'm looking forward to have a device that doesn't require me to go through the backup/downgrade/test/upgrade cycle when I'm testing LuneOS. Now I'll have the option to try out UBports, Sailfish, postmarketOS, and whatever else comes along too. Should be fun!

  • i ordered one,( once the website worked.)
    i am hoping some of the experienced guys,
    will put up screenshots of terminals commands ,and maybe a place to find "stickies" for the best way to do things

  • Yay! Ordered!

    (And updated the OP with direct links to the order page too.)

    This is truly a great day, and unlike the Purism crowdfunding two years ago, we're ordering a product that is real and has software and is nearly ready (things which don't appear to be true of the Librem 5 even now 😞 ).

  • @ those who ordered one.

    We wait for your hands-on ☺

  • Bit hard for me to explain at this time of year .."another phone, how many do you need ".. has turned up. So I'm going to console myself with getting my OP3 on UT. March is already marked on the calendar very clearly!! though.
    On another point might be interesting to know how orders/sales are going/went at some point @PINE64 Hopefully they sell out quickly.

  • @PINE64, will it be possible to purchase PinePhone in Russia in March 2020 or order it directly? Are there any known limitations to do that?

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