Integration into FluffyChat would be super awesome. I would love to contribute to this but idk. if I can adept to this kind of app development. At least I would love to donate for that.

[EDIT]
So I updated to v 0.6.0 and still have the following problem which kept me from testing the encryption thing thang:
When I have bad internet connection, sometimes I get loged out inside Fluffy. (happend already with v 0.4.x if I remember correctly)
Inside an other Element session, the settings still show a Pantalaimon and Fluffy session. I delete these sessions.
Regardless of restarting Pantalaimon or not, when I now login inside Fluffy, I get to an empty start screen with no chats, no name, no pic, nothing. (Typing wrong login data gives me correct feedback msg about it.)
When I look into the active sessions from Element, I can see a Fluffy but no Pantalaimon session.

Pantalaimon log [lvl warning] ends with:

socket.py 752 getaddrinfo

LookupError: unknown encoding: idna

Unclosed client session

client_session:
<some object and Address>

A minore usage difficutly that I encountered:
When you add a homeserver, type in the HS URL and directly hit [save], without leaving the text-box before, the HS URL just typed in is forgotten. This could be more fool prove, but Its not really a big thing.

Greetings.

This is an important bug fix release which resolves an issue with messages sent as unencrypted in encrypted rooms. Please update and restart the pantalaimon service.

mailing list:
https://lists.sr.ht/~thrrgilag/pantalaimon-ut/<YTjWk0eSP36PVn8W%40hexx>

blog:
https://thrrgilag.net/post/pantalaimon-ut-0-6-0/

As an aside, although I'm not a regular user of Ubuntu Touch these days I do intened to keep supporting this for a while so do let me know if things go sideways again and I'll do my best to stay on top of it. In addition to this thread feel free to contact me directly, hit me up in public chat, or the mailing list.

There are moments when I wonder if it'll just be easier to add encryption support directly into FluffyChat QML but time is a luxury I don't have.

Unfortunatly I haven't done any testing on it since my main ubuntu touch device stopped booting. I'll have to get that sorted or another device up and running before I can work on it further.

I have another issue of chats with peoples devices that are verified but still I get a grey icon and I can restart the verification over and over again. Seems like a big mess going on. I dont know if thats because of Pantalaimon or sth is messed up on my homeserver side.

Greetings

Steps i followed:

1. disabled pantalaimon
2. Opened adb shell to
3. sudo rm -r /home/phablet/.local/share/pantalaimon
4. added my homeserver again to pantalaimon
5. enable and start pantalaimon
6. login with fluffy (successful login, but still no encrypted messages send to other element clients)
7. reboot
8. open Fluffy which is still online, nice, I hope it will last now

But still all encrypted conversations receive unencrypted messages from my phone. At least Element says so.
I set the pantalaimon session to be trusted from Element and I enabled all other devices in Fluffys encrypton settings of different rooms.
Even though I can read messeges inside encrypted rooms, I can not find a way to get rid of that "not encrypted" warning sign. I am confused.

1. stop and disable pantalaimon
2. delete or rename /home/phablet/.local/share/pantalaimon
3. enable and start pantalaimon
4. login through fluffychat

And if that's all good try another reboot to ensure it comes remains logged in.

I was able to login two times after resetting everything. But after a reboot I am always back to the Fluffy login screen. When I then login, Fluffy says sth. like "no connection" and there is an empty account opened with no chats or data. This always creates a new Fluffy Chat login session on my Matrix account but there is just a single Pantalaimon session visible.

When I was loged in successfully futhermore I wasn't able to activate encryption. Messeges send from the Phone were always taged to be unencrypted.

Do you have any Idea what could cause this problems? Maybe its also related to my homeserver configuration as it was working perfectly before.

Thanks for your help,
JimmyPesto

1. Device
2. Ubuntu Touch version
3. FluffyChat version
4. Pantalaimon-UT version

pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted pantalaimon.thrrgilag_0.5.0_arm64.click

Then I could open launch the app, configure it, start the service. All seemed fine. However, Fluffychat does not connect through pantalaimon (":confused_face: no connection "). And Fluffychat can connect directly to my homeserver.

Looking in the logs, it seems pantalaimon has a problem

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "peewee.py", line 3035, in connect
  File "peewee.py", line 3371, in _connect
sqlite3.OperationalError: unable to open database file

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "pantalaimon", line 10, in <module>
  File "click/core.py", line 829, in __call__
 
  File "peewee.py", line 3371, in _connect
peewee.OperationalError: unable to open database file
[11864] Failed to execute script pantalaimon

I suspect the way I installed the app might not give it the proper rights to operate correctly. If so can anyone tell me how one is supposed to properly install a click package manually? Otherwise, any idea how I can debug the issue?

@thrrgilag nice!

May I ask what keeps you from uploading the app to the OpenStore? I think it is useful the way it is right now.

At this point I think it's mostly a matter of me not having the time to chase it down. I'll see if I can dig up that information and figure out what that process is to get it approved and submitted in the next week or so.

May I ask what keeps you from uploading the app to the OpenStore? I think it is useful the way it is right now.

@thrrgilag Today Fluffy crashed and I had to login again. Afterwards the warning sign was gone.

Don't forget if you have to sign in again, that fluffy is pointing to pantalaimon

Is there a recommended way to set up E2EE between two ppl with lets say 2 devices each (and one of these is UB Fluffy + Pantalaimon)?

Because there isn't any controls available from the UB Fluffy+Pantalaimon side you'll have to start the encrypted chat using another client that supports encryption such as Element. Once you've done that it should work in UB Fluffy. Keep in mind that if you have previously encrypted messages those won't be decryptable since you can't easily import the keys from another session. But new messages should decrypt just fine.

Hmn but in the Fluffy encryption options I can see the keys used for verification and I can enable/disable these.

Is there a recommended way to set up E2EE between two ppl with lets say 2 devices each (and one of these is UB Fluffy + Pantalaimon)?

Im just getting started, sry for all these questions and thanks for your support.

It seems like encryption is working but within Element Clients I get this red warning sign besides each message from the Pantalaimon + Fluffy combo that says its not encrypted.

I played around a lot. My understanding of everything is still basic but I did not find a way get rid of this. Am I doing sth. wrong?