....cant really do that on UT as of yet .....i know people be like "try mobian"

.....but that is not my point... my point is when the first flagship of a linux mobile operating system dropped on the world ubuntu touch

it fell flat on its face because its nothing like linux
i feel like this was a great sin to linux

(i know i know ...im a broken record on this topic)

i have a bunch of python id like to move to apps but i still dont get how to initialize python in the clickable package all the docs and tutorials appear to skip over how to do that exactly

the real magic would be to get lomiri/unity8 window manager to interpret opening windows in a size/dpi that fits your screen

idk its all just wishing helplessly .....if i can ever build halium im gonna try to roll my own distro based on UT but be more as described

basically the only differences should be lomiri/unity8 and halium other than that just like any other ubuntu desktop experience

IF ANYONE EVER DOES THIS AND CAN WALK ME THRU BUILDING HALIUM I WOULD GLADLY BE THE FIRST TO TRY IT ....whoops caps ....but yeah ill keep it

...make a very public release that this change has happened ....id bet a dollar to a donut the users and developers come in droves

no one is interested in a linux distro that dont linux .basically the current philosophy is going to ultimately strangle UT to death

not trying to be mean (to whoever makes that call) ......but the writing is on the wall

ubports repos should be locked and only UT compatible software should be allowed there

but then have a user/sources.list that enables other repos with a explicit warning things wont work ....UT's biggest issue is the fact it cannot leverage the history of linux .....development has been limited to one thing (clickable~as far as i know?)

UT only has a handful of apps and half of them are web apps and the others are buggy or dont work ........basically all terminal apps work for the most part but i cant even download htop without modding the rootfs (R/W permissions)

put 2 versions in the wild...

what we currently have and another that tries to be like ubuntu desktop (even with the mobile desktop environment limitations)
watch the download count then the forum members #'s

also why not run other desktop environments? ...so what i only have a six inch monitor? lol ........p.s dont try to run another desktop environment it will currently render your device a brick

@cliffcoggin i wonder if it could just be responsive so whenever you add a item iy just produces another row .....

That would be a nice improvement once UT is a fully functional OS for all supported phones, but I don't see the point of tweaking the bells and whistles of minor functions while major functions such as the camera have not been maintained for over a year, the Adblock application is about to lose its maintainer, VOLTE (or do I mean VOIP, I never remember the difference,) does not work, not to mention the enormous amount of effort involved in the transition from Ubuntu 16 to 20. My impression is that Ubuntu Touch is on the verge of collapse for lack of people willing and able to take part in the core development work.

....right now im still trying to conquer clickable once i do that i can add functionality all over the place via apps

as far as core development goes im still stuck on building halium so once i figure that out itll be sweet

i have a few more devices id like to add to the list ....also on thing i have to deal with is since my laptop died a few weeks back

my main computer is a orange pi 5 16gb ram model its pretty sweet but im kinda limited to arm64 and the ubuntu image im running isnt the cleanest being freshly rolled

....i say we make the billions in R&D work for us

1. Not everyone wants their OS to resemble Android.
2. The core devs have very much enough on their plate. Let's not try to get them to do even more. There's hardly even a handful of them.

so got me wondering about "home screen" while technically UT dont have one in a traditional sense

There are several apps that take over the "home screen" function. One that I have used is Launcher Modular, you might want to give it a try.

im wondering if i can lock a app open so it always is in the main screen even if you change open task or the app menu?

im working on a neat 3d menu

If you haven't noticed, the top bar "dropdown" menu is sensitive to where your finger is while dropping (left to right).
So while you're swiping down, you can adjust the menu you want by slightly scrolling left or right.

So to get the flashlight, it's:
1- press the power button (or double-tap on screen for those compatible)
2- swipe down on the battery menu
3- tap the flashlight

It cannot be easier or faster without creating another complex feature to accommodate some very niche use cases.

so i was like "this needs to be right here" then i came and typed this lol

i still say it should be a UT menu feature

There are no 'should's here, but you get to want what you want! And one day, you may be able to help make it happen. There are apps that place icons on the notification bar (what you are calling the top quick menu), so it's not impossible.