UT on factories internal telephone system



  • I'll try to make my idea short:
    I'm working in a non-iron metallurgic company in Austria. We use an internal telephone system connected to 4G and is currently upgrading to use of the CAT 35B "dumbphones". Couple of days ago I've received one of these to have a look if I can fix its faulty microphone. The CAT uses KaiOS, a linux branch, requires 500MB, the phones entire memory is 2Gb and it costs 80€.
    As well in my factory, we have a Survey and Command System that consist of visualizing in WinCC the data provided by the PLC CPU from entire factory. We want to implement somehow feeding this information in a smartphone as well, but right now the issue is that the WinCC and/or Siemens software is pixel related and that looks horrible on smartphone (need to use curssor, zoom, etc.)
    And this is where I thought: why KiOS? Why not UT?
    Ok, UBPorts is not yet a company, as far as I know, but things change.
    It's a niche zone, a test ground and I think the companies are interested, at least mine I know it is, to save money on the long run. When you have a fully functional phone, full supported, with open software, hardware to support this software and a team behind this...
    I see potential, but let's see if is feasible....
    But..., above all, I think UT should remain open source and/or free..
    Bring yours thoughts...
    Edit: we use right now old hard-button Zapp-like mobiles, CAT 35B, Huawei PRO etc..., Iphone...



  • @C0n57an71n said in UT on factories internal telephone system:

    And this is where I thought: why KiOS? Why not UT?

    KaiOS is for feature phones, and UT is not.



  • @dobey What do you mean by "feature"?



  • @C0n57an71n Those phones like the CAT 35B you mentioned, Nokia 3310 for example, and other very basic phones that everyone had before iPhone and Android phones took over the market.

    They have much less processing power and resources, smaller screens, no touch, and rely on T-9 text entry and such.



  • @dobey Know I got it. Yeah, I know. I have written above what the CAT can do 🙂 , but we are still upgrading. A rugged phone with basic Android-like capabilities will fit most of the requirements for the daily worker. He doesn't need facebook, whatsupp, etc..., We are more concerned about the battery and how to change it quickly...



  • @dobey The thing is that we'll have to implement a quick access system sooner or later, that means phones or tablets that are capable of displaying real-time information and control from whatever corner of the factory. The thing is running 24/7/365..., I work in shifts and sometimes I'm alone, I have a fault, I'm at the location of the fault, but I cant see the system measurements since the PC is somewhere far away... Dumbphones are for the basic worker, but the core is using Android and the management iPhone. The core needs a mobile real-time information display platform.
    We basically need to be able to display information provided by this: "*SIMATIC WinCC is a supervisory control and data acquisition (SCADA) and human-machine interface (HMI) system from Siemens. SCADA systems are used to monitor and control physical processes involved in industry and infrastructure on a large scale and over long distances. SIMATIC WinCC can be used in combination with Siemens controllers. WinCC is written for the Microsoft Windows operating system.[1][2] It uses Microsoft SQL Server for logging and comes with a VBScript and ANSI C application programming interface.[3]

    In 2010, WinCC and PCS 7 were the first known SCADA systems to be specifically targeted by malware. The Stuxnet worm can spy on and even reprogram infected systems*.[4]" on a phone or tablet and be able to interact with it. This would be huge, if possible, as would cover at least Austria and Germany.


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