Gemini PDA



  • Hello!

    I will hopefully get my Gemini PDA in December.
    If you don't know about it, please read this:
    https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gemini-pda-android-linux-keyboard-mobile-device-phone

    As I have understood it the hole platform is open source.

    So it should be easy to port Ubuntu Touch to it.
    (I once tried to port Ubuntu Touch to Motorola Droid 4, so I have a good idea how to do it.)

    Are the phablet tools still available?

    Best Regards
    / Rasmus



  • I didn't know about Gemini PDA looks pretty good, you can advance some work if you know the hardware that includes.

    I don't know if all the platform is going to be open source, because they don't specified the CPU/GPU, baseband modem, camera, etc.



  • Strange, I'm sure I read that the drivers and software would be open source and that it would be based on Linux kernel 4.9.

    In any way I think it will be possible to install a desktop version of Ubuntu and they have just tested Debian on the device.

    So it should be possible to install Ubuntu Touch on it.

    The CPU /GPU is specified Mediatek Helio X27 processor and the Mali GPU.



  • @zzarr I can't see any reference for the Mediatek libre firmware, maybe they want to release their job as opensource but the firmware is another thing, still looking good the project.

    Probably it's usable with proper binary blobs.



  • @uzanto I think you are correct.



  • Is there any advantage, to use Ubuntu Touch on it, instead of running a regular Ubuntu desktop system?
    As far as I see, it should be able to run it with GNU Linux and therefore with any GNU Linux distribution like Ubuntu.



  • @WLBI Indeed you are correct, but I had a Meizu MX4 and really liked how the ui worked on it and think that the ui would suite the device very well.

    Other whys Gnome 3 could be nice too of course.

    As long as anbox can run the Android apps I want to run.

    Best case scenario anbox would run the apps on the Android system (so that I would have to boot into Android only if an app is not compatible with anbox).



  • Did you get your Gemini PDA? I am considering that device, so if you have usable insigthts I would like to know as much as possible :)



  • @zzarr said in Gemini PDA:

    Strange, I'm sure I read that the drivers and software would be open source and that it would be based on Linux kernel 4.9.

    Do you think you could dig up that reference? Would be interesting to see.



  • Hello!

    I have not gotten my unit yet, but it's close now, the mass production have begun, the first 3000 devices have been produced and they are doing final quality tests now before shipping.

    I can't find any information about software except that they have booted Debian on the device.

    Further more, I have ordered a Sentio Superbook, I think it will be a nice companion to the PDA.

    If I find any info I'll write it here.

    PST: Tomorrow the price will increase with $200.

    Best Regards



  • I have gotten my PDA now!

    What is the status of Anbox for ARM?

    Best Regards



  • Hello!

    I got my Gemini a few weeks ago, so far I only have Android on it and Ubuntu is not ready.

    The kernel and bootloader is open source, they can be found here: https://github.com/dguidipc

    I have following questions:
    As Planet Computers is porting Ubuntu desktop to the device, should I wait for them to be ready and not ask any more here?
    Is there a simple way to port Ubuntu Touch to the device?
    Is it possible to port Ubuntu 18.04?
    Does anyone else have a Gemini or is waiting and want the same thing?

    As I wrote in the last post I'm waiting on a Sentio Superbook (laptop dock/DisplayLink based).

    Best Regards
    / Rasmus



  • @zzarr said in Gemini PDA:

    Is there a simple way to port Ubuntu Touch to the device?

    No shortcuts or simple ways here :). I'm working on it though:

    device photo

    It's not ready for daily use, but what currently works (with different hacks) is:

    • Display/Touch screen
    • Keyboard
    • Cellular connectivity + outgoing voice calls
    • Sound
    • Wi-Fi
    • Bluetooth

    If you want to help with porting or test it, you can ping me in UBPorts Telegram group.

    As for desktop Ubuntu, I suppose it's currently on hold with main focus being put on Debian. Those two are going to share adaptation bits (in fact, the current plan is to use some Ubuntu Touch software and middleware on "desktop" Debian to provide, for example, phone application), so it doesn't make sense to duplicate efforts with limited resources just now.



  • @thekit said in Gemini PDA:

    It's not ready for daily use, but what currently works

    That list sounds rather complete. What's missing in your opinion for daily use?



  • @doniks said in Gemini PDA:

    That list sounds rather complete. What's missing in your opinion for daily use?

    Getting it more polished and stable. Same can be said about UBPorts 16.04 itself, which is still in devel (see https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestone/7), and lots of apps would need to be recompiled for it to work properly.



  • @thekit That looks amazing!

    I'm guessing that incoming calls is the biggest questionmark in my head.

    But I have to say very well done!

    I know it's an early question but is it possible to run Android apps via Anbox?

    Is it possible to dualboot?

    Remember 16.04 will be supported in 3 more years.

    Would I be able to install a 18.04 desktop container?

    Once more, I love the work you have done!

    Best Regards



  • @zzarr said in Gemini PDA:

    I know it's an early question but is it possible to run Android apps via Anbox?
    Is it possible to dualboot?
    Remember 16.04 will be supported in 3 more years.
    Would I be able to install a 18.04 desktop container?

    I'm a week late, but I didn't look much into this yet. In theory, Anbox works on "official" MediaTek UBPorts devices, but it needs some kernel patches.

    Dualboot works same way as with Android/Debian. As for 18.04 container, that sounds like what Libertine does if you want to run graphical apps. Not sure if it has been ported to 16.04 yet, you can check this in general discussions/project GitHub issues as it's not specific to this device.



  • Hello!

    Thanks for your response, I will look in to it.

    Best Regards



  • Hello everyone again!

    Is it possible to patch the kernel to be able to run libertine on Gemini yet?

    I thought of a useful thing, if I would be able to use a part of the right hand side of the display as track pad (control a mouse cursor), this would make it easier to use desktop applications in libertine.

    Best Regards



  • @zzarr said in Gemini PDA:

    Hello everyone again!

    Is it possible to patch the kernel to be able to run libertine on Gemini yet?

    I doubt there is a kernel patch needed for libertine. If it runs UT it runs libertine I would say.


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