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@Rinkeby said in lineage native VS lineage on Ubuntu:
Though Android was once based on Linux kernel, its heavily modified.
I also wanted to mention, that it is not the 'heavy' modification of the kernel that makes Android less 'linuxy' it is all the layers on top of it.
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ok! cool. thanks for the answer. I take it from you then.
welp, then its all up to the apps I install in waydroid/lineage. But I still feel that running UT without waydroid is better for privacy. Even if I use F-droid etc.
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@Rinkeby said in lineage native VS lineage on Ubuntu:
I still feel that running UT without waydroid is better for privacy.
This is definitely the case!
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Thanks again.
And of course the Linux Kernel is modified in all directions. But Google does it in a ugly way. I know, that when you boot your phone, the manage to read information being sent before it was even started. So I dont know how deep this go. While UT gives of very little when booting. So Google and Apple sneaks in a lot of dirt deep in the code. But perhaps not as deep as kernel rather than supporting the dirt.
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@Rinkeby said in lineage native VS lineage on Ubuntu:
And of course the Linux Kernel is modified in all directions. But Google does it in a ugly way. I know, that when you boot your phone, the[y] manage to read information being sent before it was even started.
Do you have any source reference for this claim? Or was this knowledge gained from your own investigation?
Either way, if information is sent even before the device is booted, then your device is deeply compromised on the hardware and no matter what OS you put on it, it will continue doing this.
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I will look it up. Was a while ago. And it sends during the booting process obviously.
money money
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meanwhile its hard to find old sources. Welcome to Android and the commercial sector.
https://thehackernews.com/2016/11/hacking-android-smartphone.html?m=1
There is a lot of liberties with "stock" android. Wherever its geopolitics or Google/Apple themselves. I am sure Lineage kills off most of it. But even them are limited in all the code and firmware at play.
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@Rinkeby said in lineage native VS lineage on Ubuntu:
There is a lot of liberties with "stock" android. Wherever its geopolitics or Google/Apple themselves. I am sure Lineage kills off most of it. But even them are limited in all the code and firmware at play.
Not to be polemical about it, but your link only shows that some vendors go ahead and add spyware to their devices, not that Google was involved in this is any way. What the link is talking about is in no way 'stock' Android, like one would find on say a Pixel. This is the 'stock' for that Chinese vendor, and one can expect that they will add their own software on top, as do all other Android vendors (just hopefully not all as privacy invasive as these.)
For instance I expect the Android that is shipped on for example the FairPhones and the OnePlus range to be more privacy respecting than the ones shipped on budget Chinese devices. What the latter do with their devices, that's on them.
Then there's the term 'firmware' in the article: as this link explains:
Firmware meaning, especially when speaking about devices with Android, has been incorrectly expanded in popular culture to encompass all the software on those devices. Android “firmware" now means the firmware plus the Android operating system on top of it.
So the 'firmware' that contains the spyware is most likely just extra sodtware included in the image flashed to the devices. Again, none of it Google's doing or Android's fault per se.
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But we are all on the same side here, and we can agree that UT is much more aligned out of the box to the user's privacy than Android.
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Yes, agreed. Not the greatest link. But a proof of dirty firmware through Google. Eventhough not guilty of this one.
