kalle.kruse last edited by
Pine64 forum says:
Some of you may have already heard rumors about the PinePhone on podcasts or read about it in FOSS / tech press. Its true, we're making a Linux-only smartphone called the PinePhone based on the Allwinner A64, and it will strictly be running mainline Linux. Software development on this project has already began - UBPorts, Maemo Leste, PostmarketOS, Plasma Mobile as well as other developers have received early kits to get up to speed on the A64 SOC. Just in the past few days a lot of progress has been made on these early kits (and i mean A LOT!) and, as you will surely see in coming days, some of the aforementioned software is already running on-top of mainline kernel. We will likely have a functional demo at FOSDEM!
Software-related status debate is beyond the scope of this post - which should be obvious, given that the actual dev kits aren't even available yet - however I cannot resist but to include two pictures of KDE and Unity 8 running on the aforementioned kit, curtsy of Bhushan Shah and Marius Gripsgard from KDE and UBPorts respectively.
arubislander last edited by
Interesting days. Also read about the PineTab on the same blog. For me that would be a very compelling device to run UTouch/Unity 8 on, depending on it's specs
trainailleur last edited by trainailleur
I don't think they're linked yet from the main page of the Pine64 wiki, but here are the pages for the dev kits:
Crossing my fingers Phase 3 (the shipping phone) comes to fruition (same with the Librem 5).
PINE64 last edited by
That is correct @arubislander , they aren't linked yet ... mostly because the wiki articles are for devs and really not meant for users. Clearly the Phase 2 article isn't even finished
3arn0wl last edited by 3arn0wl
Numpty question then: how big, in reality, is the gap between Unity8 and UBports' Ubuntu Touch?
trainailleur last edited by
[T]hey aren't linked yet ... mostly because the wiki articles are for devs and really not meant for users. Clearly the Phase 2 article isn't even finished
Not surprising, and I figured that was the reason. Since this is a dev-heavy and dev-supporting community, I hope you don't mind my posting the links for those with a thirst to know more.
Welcome, BTW. Glad to see you here.
doniks last edited by
@kalle-kruse Thanks for the link. It's an impressive post. And it was an impressive stand that they had at fosdem. Also the camera and the tablet looked really nice. But I forgot to try to play any audio or video on the tablet. Can someone comment? Is it Loud enough? Does it sound good?
PINE64 last edited by
@trainailleur not at all, its not even a secret. Its just because since regular users cannot (and will not) be able to obtain those kits there isn't really a reason to have them in our wiki. Thanks for having us here
@doniks glad you liked the stall and the post - I wrote it up, so I immodestly take the credit I only played audio on the PineTab once ~6-7 months ago on a super early prototype, so I honestly cannot answer the audio question. I think that it will be serviceable but won't knock your socks off (as you probably expect). As for video; 720p and 1080p playback will be fine with a dedicated player using HW acceleration. Lets see what devs can do with in-browser playback (in-browser 480p sw rendered will work fine but higher will require hw acceleration - newest cedrus has a vaapi wrapper!)
@3arn0wl What exactly do you mean by that question
3arn0wl last edited by
Hey, @Flohack - thanks for... well just thanks for being, really.
Ubuntu was always explained as being all one code, in all one language... Which is a fantastic thing... A real strength.
But UT on the N5 seems to be more advanced than Unity 8... Is that an incorrect perception?
What I guess I'm asking therefore is: is it a big effort to get Unity 8 working on PinePhone at the same level as UT on my beloved N5? Is it to do with Mir and Wayland?
And will all the apps in the OpenStore work on Unity8?
The challenge to get Ubuntu Touch running is not unity8 I would say, and the click apps will stay. We have to remove the Android container and instead access the hardware directly.
We still dont know the exact amount of work what will be involved, but yes, the goal is to give the same experience at the end.
Also we must say here that the hardware specs might not be final and we dont know yet about GPS, sensors etc. And the main CPU is for sure slower than N5.
But dont judge the phone by its specs. Its a groundbreaking chance to show that we do not need Android hardware and that an open phone is possible. I think thats the huge message we want to get out.
@3arn0wl Also watch today´s Q&A we might have some answer for you there.