@UniSuperBox said in PinePhone:
@GizmoChicken said in PinePhone:
You aren't seriously suggesting that Pine64 relies on "the community" for every aspect of the boot process, are you?
[...] in a post asking about a whether @PINE64 would be providing a script for installing to eMMC, @PINE64 stated: "I'll put together a 'rough' SD->eMMC image in time for when phones are delivered later this month." So @PINE64 seems to have more control over what will ship on the PinePhone than you seem realize.
I'm not suggesting, I'm telling. The Pine64 Store makes hardware, we make software. We are a community. Our community includes PostMarketOS, the KDE Plasma Mobile developers, Manjaro, LuneOS, SailfishOS's community porters, Nemo Mobile... the list goes on and on. The Store itself is a member of our community.
We're on the same side here, man. The @PINE64 account is a collaboration among four long-standing Pine64 community members: TL, Lukasz, 'Gamiee', and 'fire219'. Any one of them could be putting the script together. That does make the "I'm" a bit confusing in this case. We can do better in the future.
I've been involved in the PinePhone project from the first time that Lukasz joined our IRC and asked if we wanted in. Yes, in a group with 2000 people, he implicitly announced the PinePhone before we even knew its specs. From the beginning, it's been clear: The Pine64 Store's staff members are making the hardware they can manage, with the features we request, at a price they believe is fair. They do not hire software engineers.
The Store has, however, allocated no-cost hardware to people that we've requested to receive it. Marius, NotKit, and I have received each revision of the PinePhone hardware. We're able to grow that with the Braveheart batch. It's a (capitalist/existential) win for the Pine64 Store, their hardware is far less expensive than our paid developers' salaries. It's a win for us (the community), we get made-for-us hardware.
Because of this, you are indeed requesting that we create a dual-boot option, not that they create a dual-boot option. You are requesting that we create an Android image.
The Pine64 Store has Veto Power in our community, they need to make the numbers work. I'm telling you now, though, the numbers don't work if they hire developers. Napkin math can tell me that.
This is accurate When I - Lukasz - wrote "I'll put together a SD->eMMC" that actually meant that that is something which I can do (Martjin Braam from PMOS ended up doing it, and most certainly better than I would). As for what Dalton wrote, we do indeed rely entirely on the partner-projects community devs for software.