@68k_dude That's what i thought after the first post also, but then the thread seem to be more about being different. :-)
I think the way it i now goes well with ubports.com, but i think it would be nice to be a little bit more clear in the startup. Maybe adding "by UBports" after/under "Ubuntu Touch" or something like that. And if they would have kept the robot, it would have been more clear as well. :-)
@Tobisch No its all done via the PC. Install the magic device tool on the PC and use the terminal. Look up the magic device tool pages on git hub or in your PC browser and all you need comes up.
All other system and app update come straight through to your device.
I agree that IBM have done a lot to allow 3rd parties in, and also Microsoft have done a lot to simplify for us developers. Same there though, i'm not a Microsoft fan either. :-)
Nevertheless, i also think that people developing for phones exaggerate how bad it is on phones. There are a lot of similarities between phones as well. Many use the same soc:s and probably also are based on the same development kits. Displays are also many times very similar although different brands, I think probably the baseband is the most difficult part, which is quite essential on a phone of course, but hopefully not all the drivers would have to be closed in one big blob the way it is now. I guess it's fair to say that this is all goes into kind of defacto standards, which makes it essentially different from the PC, but i do think it is possible benefit a lot by focusing on the similarities.
You never know we may be lucky enough one day for both phones to be moved to the core list and then the fun can begin.
I also have a E4.5, but for sure, this will never happen, because those devices don't have enough power to handle what is needed.
The devices don't have HDMI out.
The RAM is way to small for having a smooth running system with full convergence.
The processor is so slow, that it can not be used with a decent workflow.
It's just impossible to use those devices, for that what UBports can do all.
Something like, you will use a "Pentium 1" PC with 512 MB RAM and install Ubuntu 17.04. Well, there will be no fun ;)
Are you planning to relax the app confinement™ rules a bit, so that apps e.g. can save files in /home/phablet/Pictures?
Could we expect some minor change to the design of some UI components (e.g. buttons)?
Huh, yeah... I've heard there has been some discussion about a new home screen at the UbuCon@Paris. Is it true? 😆
@Flohack I think the important point with the baseband is that they will separate it so it does not have memory access. Baseband is seriously flawed and no amount of free firmware will ever fix that. The way purism tries to approach that problem is the separation, hardware kill-switches and ip first communication via matrix so you don't actually need the baseband if you have wifi.
They try to create a true general purpose computing device with a smartphone form factor like the laptops and pc we know. I think they are completely on the right track and that is why I already backed the campaign for a phone and the dev kit.
I really like the clean interface Ubuntu Touch offers and I'm sure there will be a way to use it on this device. I sure will try if the funding succeeds and once I get the dev kit.
I have used threema a long time ago but it is not open source so I convinced my family and some friends to switch to signal messenger. Unfortunately signal is not interested in working together with UBports so currently I ended up with telegram. But telegram also is not open source and encryption is weak. E.g no group encryption is available.
Now there is light at the horizon with matrix.org. a federated open source and end to end encryptable communication system. This is what I want and with uMatriks there is the first rudimentary app available.
So long story short: Threema is outdated, successor has been signal, but on the one hand they do not care about us and on the other hand there is a real leapfrogging with matrix.org. So I pledge for concentrating development, funding and support forces to make uMatriks a really useful app like riot.im.
@guru Thank you for your reply! I'm afraid I don't have experience with chroot, but what I have read sounds promising :-) Some questions remain, but I feel I should gain some experience before asking them here. I will experiment with this :-)
I for one would be happy to see a BQ phone being supported going forward. The new BQ Aquaris phones seem good to me. With prices ranging from E170 to E340 and Qualcomm Snapdragon processors too. I have had my E4.5 for what seems like an age now. I remember waiting for the flash sales, that was truly a frustrating way to get to buy a phone. I got one eventually and have used it everyday since. If I could buy a new BQ phone with Ubuntu Touch I'd buy it immediately. I don't really care too much about convergence I use Ubuntu 16.04 LTE at home and I have put an SSD in my corporate machine at work with it on too (shhhh, don't tell the IT Technical services team :) . Good file syncing will do at this point.