@domubpkm
News is still fresh but going viral : https://ubports.com/blog/1/post/271

@domubpkm
In fact there are 6 of them.

This is a picture I took of my BH. The label on the left describes what they are for.
Sorry for the blur macro is bad with the phone's camera.

@PINE64 Yeah \o/
I refreshed my browser all morning until could place an order

@nexus5
Hi, you just opened 4 threads in a row just with complains about the OS.

We are a community and everyone can contribute. But simply asking for stability, customization or anything that is convenient to you does not help.
I don't say your ideas are bad, just that if you take the time to read a bit more and learn about what is currently done you'll know that anything you ask here is far from being a priority.

Ubuntu Touch is very stable and it is one of the top priorities despite what you wrote here: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/4905/stability
That's why OTA13 has been postponed.

As I said, we're a community and here to help each other.
Opening a bunch of thread just to complain about UT not being Android is considered like SPAM.

So please ask yourself how you can help. Or if you have a specific issue you can ask for help or open an issue in gitlab if you found a bug.
But you'll have to be specific.

Thanks.

@makeixo
Stating fact is not the problem here. We are all aware of what could be better.

You came here and wrote this and this. What people trying to actually DO something hear is:
I don't understand why such basic think is not done yet.

Even if you came just asking question this is not the way to do it.
In community like this one, what is appreciated is:

• Being thankful for the job already done
• People who want to contribute by trying/doing

Stating the obvious doesn't help anyone.
Criticism is not banished. But it should be a productive one.

When you see something that doesn't work the way you want, you can come here and ask what can I do.
Personally I use UT for 2 years now on my daily driver (a Nexus 5). There are some issue, battery leaks, ... but I'm glad to have an alternative to Android which drove me crazy years ago.

I couldn't control my domotic, so I created an app. Some people use it and I'm glad I'm able to give a little back to the community.

This message is not condescending, I expect it to be something that will help you (and others) understand the philosophy of open source communities. Do not simply come and ask ; come and ask what you can do to help.
Everyone is welcome to contribute with what they can offer.

Nice opportunity for me to say a big thanks to every contributor. I'm a happy user of UBPorts !

@poVoq said in What do you think? Use only Lomiri as poweruser?:

And Libertine is a workaround, claiming the opposite makes no sense at all

Now you're doing what you don't like from @dobey ...

Libertine is as much a workaround as VirtualBox is one.
That's a feature allowing the user to extend how to use its device.

The workaround is to use a desktop app with poor UX on a phone because no native app has been developed yet.
I know expressing an idea is difficult, but when the explanation doesn't work, try understanding why and change it so it become more precise.

@poVoq
Sorry, but I don't get your point.
You're mixing subjects in order to make your point, but comparing the open store with apt is not a valid comparison.

The store is used for third party software. Like snap store on Ubuntu or other stores.
On a traditional Linux distro you have several ways to get these third party : from stores, from the developers, ppa, ...
How you get third party software doesn't matter because it has the same issues.

The OS is updated using images instead of a trusted repository... Well I don't see any issue with that.
As said many times it's for the best because you don't want to crash your phone with a simple update failure so it's more robust.

I just want to add that I'm not part of the core team and mostly a standard user of Ubuntu Touch.
So my opinion is forged on my experience with the system and I appreciate how reliable it is and how it is continuously improving.
Choices are made, you can either accept them or search for something else. If there are things I wish different, I'd create an issue and hope it is heard. Or I'd make a PR... Or even shut myself up because it is what it is.

Last, I try to give back a little of what is offered by UBports by giving time as a moderator here. And as such I'd like to point out that in order to make a point there is no need to use harsh words. People from different horizons and ages come here, so please be careful. You never know who you can hurt with a poor choice of words.

Thanks.

@PhoenixLandPirat
Have you ever been in an overcrowded touristic spot ?
You'll see buses with a lot of old tourists and as unhealthy as it is elders love tablets to take pictures.

They like it because they can see what they are shooting at and that is something I learned from an elder person next to me at grand canyon.

But I tend to agree with you regarding the prospects for the PineTab, but if some of you are like me you might want to purchase one for your old people so you can troubleshoot them more easily than with an Android tablet, so ...

@kugiigi
Yes it was delivered to my door.
My GF was home to receive the parcel.

I'm thankful to the UBports community for all the great work already accomplished.
My first contact with the community was with @AlainW94, @Flohack and @dobey .

They all helped with a development issue and explained why I couldn't do what I wanted, now I try to help whenever I can and to contribute to repay the community.

Thanks UBPorts !

@null
Hi, I don't know what you're trying to do.

What do you call "file transfer mode" ?
If you want to connect your Pinephone using the USB cable that's not possible with the Pinephone branveheart and UBports CE due to a hardware issue.
I'm not sure this feature already exist at all.

If you want to transfer files to your Pinephone, you can use SSH, "bluetooth file transfer" (not sure it's working on the Pinephone though), you can install a ftp server too (app in the open store)...

@C0n57an71n
Yes I understand.
Issues in gitlab are closed only when an OTA integrates the fix.

And the issue itself may contains explanations about working around or asking for logs so people can help developers.
That's why a link to there can be useful to both users and developers.

@C0n57an71n
Hi, most issue you reported here are also reported in gitlab.
I understand the need to share it in the forum, but it will be good if you can add the link to the gitlab for each problem so people can refer to it helping debug or test a PR...

If you didn't know you can find them here: https://gitlab.com/ubports/community-ports/pinephone/-/issues

If you can't find your problem then please create a new issue there. Developers don't use the forum as a bug tracker.

@Yuri said in PineTab:

@andybleaden I can't get my sd card to plug in at all.

You have to give more context here.
Are you having the same issue as andybleaden ?
What do you try to achieve ?

@dave_f1
You want to create some kind of screensaver ?
Meaning the whole screen will be moving.

Or is it part of an app, for example you're writing a spining wheel and wants to animate a logo within your app ?

When asking questions on the forum you have to give as much details as possible.
People won't be able to help if they don't understand the context.

@jojumaxx

OTA13 brought a newer version of QtWebEngine to power Morph browser.
A newer version means better support for recent websites, but any change comes with "changes" (well obviously)

I cannot tell about facebook, but my overall experience is that OTA13 was for the better in most websites I use.

Also on a side not and as explained there: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/4939/ota-13-on-meizu-pro-5/11?_=1600877439008
Pinephone is not concerned yet by these OTA updates.

@Jules
OTA13 is out and with it a newer QtWebEngine for Morph browser.
So Morph has now a more recent version of chromium and with it better support of various websites.

Can you mark the thread as solved. Or if you can't you can ask and I'll do it for you.

Thanks @vandys for bringing up this topic.

I take the liberty to move your post to the OS category.
That will be more suitable than "Porting".

Thanks for understanding.

@Mystic-X
Edge channel is for highly experimental features so the risk is high.

When merging devs and pushing updates a mistake can occurs anytime.
Measures are taken to limit the risk,.

In a recent Q&A Dalton talked about broken or bad updates and it is pretty impressive that Dev channel is not broken more frequently.

There is nothing to be shocked, and if you want to avoid this kind of issues, it is safer in RC or stable than Dev or Edge.

Just to provide some reference links.

The wiki you mentionned is probably the official documentation:
http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/appdev/guides/pushnotifications.html

And have you checked the example app "PushClient" ?
https://github.com/ChristianPauly/pushclient