Hello my name is jeremy aka developerbayman im a web/android/python developer and im excited to get started developing native apps for UBT im glad to finally be able to participate took me awhile to get a device that can run UBT and i cant wait to meet new people and collaborate on this (oops i just realized where i posted this mods please move to appropriate place)

i joined this community the day after my mom died ... not only did i get alot of love and support and a great distraction ....at the end of the day this is a great community! .... thank you!

now i ended up leaving ubuntu touch because it wasnt what i was looking for in a mobile operating system ...and thats ok

.....not only do i owe thanks for the emotional support but also thanks for the inspiration .... the things i dont like about UT lit a fire under me and eventually gave birth to "pylinux" .....while built on top of linux the total user software stack is all python applications (lol growing pains) eventually the total goal is to eventually port everything to python ....time will tell

after i post this im going to switch over to my pi then i can post picture of pylinux in action (sort of still a work in progress) .....but i would love to talk about it .....when designing most of the tools for pylinux ubuntu touch was in the back of my mind

pretty self explanatory we need something like rom kitchen

https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/kitchen-android-kitchen-v0-224-linux-mac-windows.633246/

more devices=more people=more development=less load on existing developers=a better operating system

@TandyNeoma basically some of xaiomi redmi note 9 pro android 10 roms feature broken sensors took awhile but foumd one that works again

@Moem thanks man i appriciate that .....also as much as i might complain .....the UT community is filled with such wonderful people as yourself .....i cant walk away from that

You are correct i got rootfs rw all i fid was try again i guess it just took the 37th try .....whole thing makes no sense but it works

Also im able to run clickable from the command line

a few weeks or about a month ago me and a buddy tried porting halium to a random device and we found it was chock full of missing links and libraries outdated in the end we had to give up

so my question is can we the community please get a updated code base that just works when trying to follow the guides ....or is there one already?

@kugiigi lol true i could ....but i wont....for some reason im totally obsessed with UT (prob all the years i wanted a UT device)

....basically i look at it like this ....this is the platform i have chosen so what i will do is go long term once i master the dev cycle (like i did with android) i will just create the functionality i want

see part of the fun also is the feed back

Also i have to point out ...why even have libertine if not for power users?(i mean yeah i know its usefull for general use)

Its so close to being every devs nerd dream power pocket pc phone

~according to my beliefs i must remain a broken record on this ....even tho it might not have any real world effect lol

join me in my quest! : https://forums.ubports.com/topic/10389/proposal-lets-bring-full-python-support-to-ut/9

probably one of the coolest features is local LAN play (still a work in progress) the idea is to simulate a LAN on a local machine allowing split screen play on one computer

@andreij-98 no not currently

oh one more thing i could also do things like "recovery ninja" a background service that would detect a state change in a file system .....if something got broken it would compare to the original and automatically restore the files inform the user they broke it but it automatically fixed it .....while still allowing people to fiddle around (people do want to fiddle) .....if done properly my ideas could be used to reinforce UT's security mind approach .......but i do have to admit one super flaw in all of my pining .....im on a xaiomi redmi note 9 pro .....so im a little blind to the resource limitations of other devices ......im going to endeavor to compile UT for my device ill set up a test case version using my device ....ill make changes to present to the community and if yall like it you can adopt it or not .....in the end this would probably be the best way to go about it and please everyone (myself included)

@AppLee thank you

@arubislander said in Connection problem pip3:

@developerbayman We have heard of this fabled solution, yes. But up to now have not seen a reproducible instance of it in action, unfortunately.

i think i have a game plan but i have to do some studying ....right now my primary linux distro just nuked the bootloader on a system update ....so now im going to have to deal with that nightmare before i even get back to reinstalling clickable ......last 2 times i installed clickable it was automatically broken do to some library breakage at some point so it was unusable and i havent been able to track down the issue yet ....maybe by now it solved itself? idk

@arubislander ....i would like to apologize if i come off as annoying or rude ......im just passionate about creation and making things cool/fun to use ect .....ubuntu touch would be a beautiful environment to enact my art into ....and the barriers in front of me leaves me a little disappointed/crest fallen .....im going to change my tactics as i understand pestering you good people isnt helping .....it is what it is

and true some things can be put into a clickable ....but alot of things cannot

another example does UT have a disk usage application? without system level access and 3rd party lib support i cannot bring this to UT this also uses a mobile UI and could easily be tweak for small screens ....i can go on and on with these examples so surly you understand my frustration? everything from media players to office suite i have and as i stated in my previous post in off topic ....most of this software while im using in my own distro i designed it with UT in the back of my mind .....maybe these are terrible examples? ........idk man all i know is i would like to make it a even better user experience but the current framework does not allow me to shine

I understand your intentions, but when you write "lets bring full python support to UT", I read "lets replace Ubuntu Touch by something very different"<

not at all actually like you said python is already there the issue in its current form is it cannot load 3rd party libs this makes it only functional in the sense it behaves as a very basic scripting agent ....for example this would allow push button service control and is in fact using a mobile lib (just does not look that way im testing on a desktop) this would be a handy thing instead of typing terminal commands on a touch screen but would require system level access ....i seek not to change UT but to enhance it this is a minor example and maybe not even a wanted feature im just trying to show what im mean

@AppLee there is the possibility of running venv environment inside of a clickable ......but im not sure how much of that would work or not work

i have browser i made (screenshots offtopic thank you post) when i wake up ill convert to mobile it can do drm content download manager video downloader and page source code viewer ....as a desktop app it weighs 11kb while running youtube and facebook uses around 200 mb ram +- .....i must sleep now ......i have good rebuttals to all of your concerns and breaking containerization isnt the goal ......but i will come back to this when i can string my thoughts together better and explain .....mobile in python is super easy and lightweight (usually)