Librem 5 Phone, progress reports
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Purism are starting to demo seven pieces of software a week on the Librem 5. Here is week 1:
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Looking at the demos, Purism is claiming to be able to use apt get to install a package. I'm wondering whether they can use that command only in a confined environment similarly as for UT or they can run it straight as it is with their own Terminal.
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@matteo Never read about confinement for Librem 5 pureOS version.
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@trainailleur the Evince demo is impressive. I was wondering if drag scrolling would work. And it does.
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@libremax said in Librem 5 Phone, progress reports:
@matteo Never read about confinement for Librem 5 pureOS version.
I suppose, it's why using apt commands are natively supported.If so it's great: they can actually install packages like if it were a real linux distro. Let's see if it will really be like that. Thank you for replying though.
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I believe that two devkits should have arrived with UBports folks recently.
Beyond that, I don’t have any more information. I hope that the boards survived shipping and that the developers can do something interesting with them.
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An Interresting speech of Purism CTO at CCCamp about mobile phone market and mobile who respects your freedom (Librem5) plus a few new pictures of device internal parts: https://media.ccc.de/v/Camp2019-10238-a_mobile_phone_that_respects_your_freedom#t=372
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Nice spec comparison of upcoming Linux phones: https://forums.puri.sm/t/comparing-specs-of-upcoming-linux-phones/6827
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Librem 5 Shipping Announcement
This does not sound very good to me, rather more like they are going to push a small number of alpha or beta devices out the door just so they can claim to meet their thrice-delayed shipping date. A further delay to get the product right would have appealed to me more.
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@trainailleur
I'm not surprised. Look at how much time it took them to confirm full specs. They were still vague back in June, the announced 2019 shipping date was never realistic. I always thought that PinePhone would be ready for mass production first, and it's looking like I may be right. That being said, Purism had a lot more R&D put into their device than Pine64 (not to mention the OS and software as well). I wish both companies success, we need both their phones. -
BTW those first small runs with milled cases are going to be costly! This is basically prototyping.
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@normandc said in Librem 5 Phone, progress reports:
@trainailleur
I'm not surprised. Look at how much time it took them to confirm full specs. They were still vague back in June, the announced 2019 shipping date was never realistic. I always thought that PinePhone would be ready for mass production first, and it's looking like I may be right. That being said, Purism had a lot more R&D put into their device than Pine64 (not to mention the OS and software as well). I wish both companies success, we need both their phones.Not surprised either, but shipping something half-baked simply to fulfill a technicality seems disingenuous to me, and that leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
I do agree, we need them both, and I wish them both well, even if I'm a bit disappointed in Purism right now.
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It might not be the only reason. Take milled cases for example, tooling for injection moulding is very expensive, they're taking a prudent approach to get the dimensions and fit right before ordering the molds. I do agree that it's odd to ship early prototypes to backers/consumers.
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Librem 5 — Promise Delivery Chart
https://forums.puri.sm/t/librem-5-promise-delivery-chart/6959
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Bad press for Purism: https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1133747-an-interview-with-zlatan-todoric-open-source-developer-former-purism-cto
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So four weeks after they loudly congratulated themselves on shipping the phone, they finally admit they didn't actually ship it. And in the course of said admission - which proves that they lied and dissembled for the past four weeks - they congratulate themselves once more on their own transparency. Good grief. I am rooting for their success, but they sure are hard to root for.