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    Privileged ICE contacts and medical information available on lockscreen [WORK IN PROGRESS]

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        3T_Ed
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        @Rondarius said in [Request] [Solutions] Privileged ICE contacts available on lockscreen + medical information:

        Hi
        I have talked to the manager for the paramedics in my town today. He was very positive to the ICE contact integration on our operating system and that we was so devoted to have an unified icon for it. But the only suggestion he had was the β€œStar of Life”. So I will post here again when or if I get a response from EMS/NHTSA.

        Thank you for taking the time to talk to the manager, sounds like we're on the right track regarding the logo.

        It would be nice to have that response from EMS/NHTSA to get a definite idea of how it should be designed best so we can get to a consensus and move forward 'molding' the app for @syper to have an easier implementation of a well thought out format.

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          Rondarius @3T_Ed
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          @3T_Ed Trust me i'm checking the mail more frequently than I did before, For the moment I have only received an automated answer saying that they have forwarded the mail to the appropriate department and a phone number if I had more questions...

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            3T_Ed @Rondarius
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            @Rondarius said in [Request] [Solutions] Privileged ICE contacts available on lockscreen + medical information:

            @3T_Ed Trust me i'm checking the mail more frequently than I did before, For the moment I have only received an automated answer saying that they have forwarded the mail to the appropriate department and a phone number if I had more questions...

            No doubt about that (:crossed_fingers: bureaucracy....), I was just touching base and a bit curious to know. Bumping the thread won't hurt either hihi

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              3T_Ed
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              @BigB
              The brackets in the header of the OP, can they be removed now? Request/solved does not apply here imo.

              Or better have it replaced by [work in progress] :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                BigB
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                @3T_Ed sure πŸ™‚

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                  3T_Ed
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                  For further improvements please find below screenshots from Lifeguard ICE app. They show front and back end of the app. It allows the user to note what they want (privacy) and have all the information at the same screen, the additional information is displayed by swiping the middle section only.

                  Hope this will help us getting a better idea and inspiration to complete the app.

                  front end.jpg

                  back end.jpg

                  PS.
                  It's quite a lot of screenshot and frankly I have no idea to make thumbnails so I made a quick collage of both front and back end screenshots.

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                    3T_Ed @3T_Ed
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                    Edit: Added two collages, bit messy but you'll get the picture

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                      Moem @3T_Ed
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                      @3T_Ed Can you post them on Imgur or similar, and post a link? I currently cannot see them at all.

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                      Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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                        3T_Ed @Moem
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                        @Moem
                        Edited the original post. Thanks for the suggestions

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                          Moem
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                          Wow, this is getting very good.
                          Can you explain why height, eye colour and hair colour are relevant? I can see why weight is relevant, because it has a correlation with how certain medications should be dosed.
                          Is it for purposes of identification in extreme cases?

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                            A Former User @3T_Ed
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                            @3T_Ed Looks awesome mate! Hats off! :sign_of_the_horns_light_skin_tone:

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                              3T_Ed @Guest
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                              @C0n57an71n , @Moem

                              Hey guys, the screenshots are from the Windows 10 mobile app I used. I am not a developer, so the only way for me to help getting this ICE feature The collages have been posted here to give you an idea and have it available for discussion so that @syper will have a relative good idea for the final version, reducing the time for him to spend on details.

                              Re hair and eye color, I really wouldn't know other than a way for emergency services and bystanders to identify the one in need for help corresponds with the owner of the phone and his ICE data

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                                Moem @3T_Ed
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                                @3T_Ed said in Privileged ICE contacts and medical information available on lockscreen [WORK IN PROGRESS]:

                                the screenshots are from the Windows 10 mobile app I used.

                                Ow. That had me confused for a moment, thanks for explaining. It is indeed good for reference.

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                                  A Former User @3T_Ed
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                                  @3T_Ed πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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                                    3T_Ed
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                                    Only wish I had the skills to make this happen, sorry guys for bursting that bubble 😁

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                                      Rondarius
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                                      Hi
                                      Finally I got an answer from NHTSA and here it is:

                                      Thank you for proactively reaching out to NHTSA to use the Star of Life symbol. If you choose to use the Star of Life symbol itself, or a close iteration of such, you'll need NHTSA's permission to do so. The guidance for using the symbol is found on www.EMS.gov at: https://www.ems.gov/vgn-ext-templating/ems/sol/HS808721.pdf

                                      If you choose to not use the Star of Life symbol, you will not need to seek our permission.

                                      Unfortunately, the NHTSA Office of EMS is unable endorse one product over another. Since the In Case of Emergency (ICE) program is not one of our programs, we won't be able to create an alternative to the Star of Life symbol.

                                      I hope this helps and please call me at xxx-xxx-xxx if you'd like to discuss this further or proceed to get permission from NHTSA to use the Star of Life symbol.

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                                        AppLee @Rondarius
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                                        @Rondarius I took the liberty to edit out the phone number and the contact name.
                                        This is a public place and it is sensitive personal data.
                                        If we need to get in touch PM will be the way πŸ™‚

                                        Thanks a lot for your initiative and your time. πŸ‘

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                                          Rondarius
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                                          I guess that this was what Dave meant whit "not our project":

                                          https://incaseofemergency.org

                                          I guess that it's either or both, the blue/red icon and the polarbear that is the official symbol.

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                                            Rondarius @AppLee
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                                            @AppLee No problem, I understand. The name is official, I found it on their homepage too.

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                                              3T_Ed
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                                              @Rondarius

                                              Great to see the NHTSA has replied and the reply is clear on the do's and don'ts. Thank you again for taking the time and sharing.

                                              What do you propose we use as a logo?

                                              The easiest way imo would be to use the objective/non-copyright alternative SOS logo (directly available from the emoji database).

                                              If we were to do it the right way (read: most commonly known amongst emergency services) we should contact NHTSA, ask for their permission and adopt the exact same Star of Life as depicted in the filed one (with or without serpent, with or without the ICE marking in the Star.

                                              With the document at hand I don't see any point in proposing another design as we would then need to go through NHTSA anyway because of the usage of the 'Star' to make it legit.

                                              If needed the logo/icon can be changed later on.

                                              We should make a decision and hopefully someone (@Syper ?) can continue to work on the ICE feature and get the app to the next level.

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