UT Fork request
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@developerbayman Do you have a PinePhone or PinePhone Pro? If so, try Rhino Linux on it, it might be more like what you want (or it might show you why you don't want what you think you want)
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@arubislander lol you maybe right about that.... but im on a xaiomi redmi note 9 pro .....so idk .....also idk its like i see soooo much potential here but at the same time the path to development on UT is VERY narrow ......for example i just dev a thonny clone that is pretty usless ......my thinking was just mod sources.list add python (all of python) then have a ide with AI built in .....introducing another path to faster development ..........but now i have to just go sit and rotate.....
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@developerbayman Your troubles are not typical, as there are more apps in the OpenStore than there would be if all had as much grief as you seem to.
I think most of the frustration you encounter is because of trying to write apps in Python. Using third party Python libraries that are normally installed via pip is not a solved problem in Ubuntu Touch. Probably (I haven't checked) most apps that are written in Python use either pre installed python libraries, or python libraries available via apt.
What libraries are you lacking in particular?
Is there a focal image for your device? Trying to solve this on Xenial is probably not the best investment of anyone's time at this stage. -
Just pip ......im all over the 3rd party library spectrum im on focal
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@developerbayman said in UT Fork request:
introducing another path to faster development.
A laudable goal in itself. But where would all these developed apps be able to run on? Would you be still also targeting regular Ubuntu Touch? Then you would still need to tackle some of the issues you are encountering.
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@arubislander alot of my deving is about cross platform but for ubuntu touch i would mod UI for mobile ......currently im looking directly at ubuntu touch
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@arubislander right now i just need python ......not a minimal version ......just python3 in all its glory
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Also why cant i edit source.list .....since ota-25 .....i cant .....at all
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@developerbayman I understand, but you would still need to figure out how to bundle all those third party libraries with your app into a click if you wanted those apps to be available for Ubuntu Touch to those other than yourself.
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@developerbayman OTA-25? But I thought you said you were on Focal? OTA-25 is Xenial.
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@arubislander that would be easy .....i know iv installed clickable on device before when i could edit sources.list it worked then .....in fact if pip was present it would be super easy write python code then bundle it with clickable on device .....i would convert my clickable manager utility to python then put it in the ide itself
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@arubislander my bad lemme double check
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@developerbayman my bad yeah im still on xenial
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@arubislander but i guess for what im trying to do does it really matter?
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@developerbayman it might it. Xenial's packages are, as you mentioned, outdated. So are Focal's by now, but at least they are more up to date by 4 years. Also Focal has support for XWayland, while Xenial uses XMir.
But another thought occured to me. Have you considered installing full Ubuntu in a chroot in your home folder? At least in that way you should be able to install any packages you would like. Not sure what it would take to start start GUI apps from inside the chroot, so that would need to be researched.
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@arubislander thats a really good idea
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@arubislander dont really need a gui just python also as long as it uses lomri cause i wanna make the ui compatible nativly
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This python ide im making while it can be used on regular ubuntu im designing it specifically for UT ......and why im upset lol .....lol i know im a drama queen
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@developerbayman I meant running the graphical app you would be developing inside the chroot, from inside the chroot.
