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    UBPorts Recovery - Factory Reset - to what?

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      • K Offline
        KJU
        last edited by

        Hello,
        I am impressed with Ubuntu Touch, but I'll return this little bonito to LineageOS soon.

        Before I do anything:

        • What does UBPorts Recovery's 'Wipe / Factory Reset' leave me with?
          (The Recovery screen notes 'Halium 9' & 'slot a')

        My hopeful guess is stock Android 9 ( slot b?)
        In that case TWRP ought to boot, and let me sideload stock Android 12 OTA images, required for LineageOS.

        My reasons:

        • battery drain seems quicker in UT
        • the UT virtual keyboard and many other features would suit me better on a small tablet.
          UT Tweak is great, though!

        Cheers,
        Kurt

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          KJU @KJU
          last edited by

          @KJU
          My question has been asked and answered in these forums before, I find.
          If 'Wipe' & 'Factory Reset' would give me a fresh Ubuntu Touch install (often a great friend in Linux!) I see I'll need to use fastboot to flash UT away.
          Solved.

          'Factory Reset' in other contexts implies 'original' or 'as-sold' - thus my uncertainty, and others' before me. The 'Yes' button is, of course, one way to find out...

          Cheers,
          Kurt

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            arubislander @KJU
            last edited by arubislander

            @KJU said in UBPorts Recovery - Factory Reset - to what?:

            'Factory Reset' in other contexts implies 'original' or 'as-sold' - thus my uncertainty, and others' before me.

            'Factory Reset' simply means: Back to a freshly installed state. This, of course, can only ever be relative to what is installed at the moment, not to what was possibly installed before.

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            Happily running Ubuntu Touch
            Google Pixel 3a (20.04 DEV)
            JingPad (24.04 preview)
            Meizu Pro 5 (16.04 DEV)

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              Moem @arubislander
              last edited by Moem

              @arubislander That does make 'factory reset' a bit of a misnomer, for most of our devices. After all UT was not installed in any factory. One could argue that it needs to be renamed.
              Maybe 'clean reset'?

              Is currently using an Op5t
              Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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                arubislander @Moem
                last edited by arubislander

                @Moem True, but in English, among techies, it has acquired the non-literal meaning, just like 'world famous' has in Dutch.

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                JingPad (24.04 preview)
                Meizu Pro 5 (16.04 DEV)

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                  KJU @arubislander
                  last edited by

                  @arubislander @Moem
                  Creative comments.
                  Of course, my concern was not to rename, but to understand. Still, 'Fresh Install' would be perfectly clear, and true to the language of Linux.
                  KJU

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                    MrT10001 @KJU
                    last edited by

                    @KJU Yes @arubislander is quite right with the "factory reset" amongst the techies, I believe an American term as relating to goods that had come from the factory (that built them) and where reset to the settings that the factory had set them to.

                    "Fresh Install" to me would be wiping the operating system off and reinstalling from scratch as would "clean install"....

                    The nuances of the English language....:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

                    Xiaomi Redmi Note 7.... And more...
                    I have too many devices...

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                      Moem @MrT10001
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                      @MrT10001 said in UBPorts Recovery - Factory Reset - to what?:

                      "factory reset" amongst the techies

                      Sure. But do we only want to appeal to techies?

                      Is currently using an Op5t
                      Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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                        AppLee
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                        Hello all

                        The language is a funny thing but I would surmise that the goal is being able to communicate an idea more than having a true language.

                        The goal is for a user to be able to install or fix it's installation.

                        So techies will understand what the factory reset means.
                        If someone is not tech savvy enough, then they will ask for direction or follow guides.

                        When I'm in a situation where I don't understand something it doesn't matter what it's called.
                        In my mind it's "succession_of_symbols".
                        IMHO a good documentation gives a glossary so I can have a better idea what these symbols/names/terms/expressions mean.

                        One who doesn't understand and "think" they can understand it just by dreaming or imagining an hypothetical meaning are fools.
                        A scientist will make assumptions and test them in order to find things out.
                        If it's an already know thing, then it's more efficient to just ask or search for the answer.

                        To sum things up, I don't think it needs to be changed.
                        But we might want to spread the word about what "Factory Reset" means, do and why.

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