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    Livewire: A native XMPP client for Ubuntu Touch

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    • Linus67L Online
      Linus67 @projectmoon
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      @projectmoon
      Greenline has ~ 30 MB
      Kaidan has 9 MB (XMPP Client in the OpenStore) Kaidan works great,

      Livewire has ~200 MB Why is Livewire such a heavyweight?

      Pixel 3a, works with NextCloud, pihole, Wireguard VPN, Trilium, GhostCloud, Paperless ngx...and a lot of great apps from the Open Store.
      Lenovo Tab M10 HD TB-X306X LTE

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        projectmoon @Linus67
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        @Linus67 said:

        @projectmoon
        Greenline has ~ 30 MB
        Kaidan has 9 MB (XMPP Client in the OpenStore) Kaidan works great,

        Livewire has ~200 MB Why is Livewire such a heavyweight?

        Gotta shove all that Python somewhere. Could possibly be trimmed down. Maybe there are some unnecessary modules.

        Libervia was chosen because there is no complete XMPP solution in Rust yet. If there ever is one, I would probably switch to that to reduce the complexity. Possibly will also investigate using the QT XMPP library.

        Edit: Indeed 215 MB of the installation size is Python code.

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          Linus67 @projectmoon
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          @projectmoon Okay, all right. I installed the app, and it looks promising. This could turn out to be something really big. Especially with olmea encryption in all conversations.

          Pixel 3a, works with NextCloud, pihole, Wireguard VPN, Trilium, GhostCloud, Paperless ngx...and a lot of great apps from the Open Store.
          Lenovo Tab M10 HD TB-X306X LTE

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            projectmoon @Linus67
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            @Linus67 come join the (currently one man) party in livewire@conference.agnos.is to test things out!

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              sixwheeledbeast
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              Thank you I have been hopeful a working UT OMEMO XMPP chat client would come soon.
              This is very heavy but functions which is great.
              I have a few questions.
              How far away are features like:- OMEMO MUC, In band registration, support multiple accounts, audio/video calls?
              If Libervia is a backend is there a possibly it could be merged into the existing messages app?

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                projectmoon @sixwheeledbeast
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                @sixwheeledbeast said:
                OMEMO MUC

                Next major item on the list. All the pieces are present, just need to assemble them correctly.

                In band registration

                I consider it lower priority: something for app stable release, but not for alpha -> beta graduation. Although it's a barrier to new users, it's possible to register elsewhere. However, if someone wants to contribute it earlier, hey ho let's go.

                support multiple accounts

                Coming soon to a .click near you

                audio/video calls?

                Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar away.

                If Libervia is a backend is there a possibly it could be merged into the existing messages app?

                Anything is possible. But I won't be doing it. I don't know how the Lomiri messaging app is constructed, exactly, and if it's specific to SMS/MMS or not.

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                  Moem @sixwheeledbeast
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                  @sixwheeledbeast said:

                  audio/video calls

                  If this is high priority for you, you might want to give DeltaTouch a try. Earlier this weekI tried a videochat with a friend who was using DeltaChat on /e/OS, and it worked fine.

                  Is currently using an Op5t
                  Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5, an Xperia X, a Nothing Phone 1, and a Rabbit R1 as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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                    nbdynl @projectmoon
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                    @projectmoon So i know, i need to do my own investigations, but uhh

                    can you explain a little why someone could need this? what is the advantage of your app?
                    like i am ungoogled searching the meaning of a xmpp client and "olmea" encryption.

                    the app looks great...

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                      projectmoon @nbdynl
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                      @nbdynl said:

                      @projectmoon So i know, i need to do my own investigations, but uhh

                      can you explain a little why someone could need this? what is the advantage of your app?
                      like i am ungoogled searching the meaning of a xmpp client and "olmea" encryption.

                      the app looks great...

                      It is an XMPP client. XMPP/Jabber is an instant messaging standard like Matrix. Older, different, some might say more efficient. But the end result is the same: put text into box, send text to other people. OMEMO (not olmea) is just the name of the end to end encryption used.

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                        Moem @nbdynl
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                        @nbdynl said:

                        xmpp client

                        Xmpp is a decently popular chat protocol with a great number of clients:
                        https://xmpp.org/software/?category=clients

                        It makes a lot of sense for UT to have one or more native clients, too.

                        Is currently using an Op5t
                        Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5, an Xperia X, a Nothing Phone 1, and a Rabbit R1 as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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