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    ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท Update: Brief returns of internet access are driving spikes in Snowflake usage.

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      • ann_effes@berlin.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
        ann_effes@berlin.social @torproject@mastodon.social
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        @torproject

        Some LINK would be nice.

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        • ann_effes@berlin.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
          ann_effes@berlin.social @torproject@mastodon.social
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          @torproject

          Done

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          • joevan@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
            joevan@mastodon.social @ann_effes@berlin.social
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            @Ann_Effes @torproject

            https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/torproject-snowflake/

            Addon for Firefox

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            • ann_effes@berlin.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
              ann_effes@berlin.social @joevan@mastodon.social
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              @joevan @torproject

              Found it. But I do know for certain, that many folks do such stuff if they find a clickable link in the post โ€ฆ and if not "they will look into it later"

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              • cyphercryptic_reboot@defcon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                cyphercryptic_reboot@defcon.social @torproject@mastodon.social
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                @torproject the web page doesn't give a lot of detail, even in the faq section. Tor browser (which i use) says it's "ready to use" on the page, but zero info on how to activate and host a snowflake in Tor browser like you can with firefox extension.

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                • steve_zeke@freeradical.zoneS This user is from outside of this forum
                  steve_zeke@freeradical.zone @torproject@mastodon.social
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                  @torproject

                  I've been running this in #Firefox for 3 years since I listened to a talk by its original developer, Serene, at the World Ethical Data Forum in 2022.

                  It is completely unobtrusive. Here is a good explainer from @eff

                  https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/10/snowflake-makes-it-easy-anyone-fight-censorship

                  Serene also has an interesting story
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serene_(pianist)

                  #music #software #privacy #activism

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                  • sgs@det.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @torproject

                    Orbot saugt den Akku leer, zumindest bei mir auf dem Handy (Android). Auf dem Notebook im FF lรคuft es prima.

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                    • trrektor@ieji.deT This user is from outside of this forum
                      trrektor@ieji.de @torproject@mastodon.social
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                      @torproject how much extra data is to be expected from running snowflake?

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                      • freigeist62@nrw.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                        freigeist62@nrw.social @torproject@mastodon.social
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                        @torproject
                        Just do it please! ๐Ÿ‘

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                        • shadowdancer@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                          shadowdancer@mstdn.social @torproject@mastodon.social
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                          @torproject
                          I operate, and have for years already, a regular relay. Is that of any help? I might be able to fire up another one, albeit with a rather limited bandwidth.

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                          • nbloglinks@indieweb.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                            nbloglinks@indieweb.social @torproject@mastodon.social
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                            @torproject try BitChat: https://indieweb.social/@nbloglinks/115960655684224625

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                            • shark@miniwa.moeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @sb @torproject we have to connect to a broker, which gives us an IP address of an active proxy. The broker itself is domain fronted behind another big website (like bunny.net, cdn77, these two currently work on MCI, in my region at least)
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                              • rebootdeluxe@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @sb @torproject Snowflake clients and snowflake proxies find each other via a broker:

                                https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/wikis/Technical%20Overview

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                                • shark@miniwa.moeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @sb @torproject I'm not sure exactly how, but maybe because snowflake proxies are used as entry nodes, broker discovers them the same way that TOR entry nodes are discovered (which I also don't know how)

                                  maybe tomorrow I'll start reading on it a bit
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                                  • shark@miniwa.moeS This user is from outside of this forum
                                    shark@miniwa.moe @shark@miniwa.moe
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                                    @sb @torproject found something
                                    "Proxies poll the broker periodically, using ordinary HTTPS requests."
                                    https://www.bamsoftware.com/papers/snowflake/
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                                    • shark@miniwa.moeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @sb @torproject also snowflake works behind NAT, there is no need for opening a port.
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                                      • ondrejzizka@mastodon.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
                                        ondrejzizka@mastodon.social @joevan@mastodon.social
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                                        @joevan @Ann_Effes @torproject Are we talking about security here?
                                        Having this as a browser extension, next to my banking, email, docs and all, sounds a little crazy. This should be a process running under its own user.

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                                        • joevan@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                          joevan@mastodon.social @ondrejzizka@mastodon.social
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                                          @OndrejZizka @Ann_Effes @torproject

                                          For LINUX:

                                          - it is open source
                                          - it runs in the context of Firefox
                                          - it does not need any additional rights

                                          For WINDOWS:

                                          - everything is always not secure

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                                          • joevan@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                            joevan@mastodon.social @ondrejzizka@mastodon.social
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                                            @OndrejZizka @Ann_Effes @torproject

                                            But if you are concerned: Buy a used Raspberry Pi, install the OS and Docker. Run Snowflake in a docker container:

                                            https://community.torproject.org/relay/setup/snowflake/standalone/docker/

                                            20 to 30 bucks and 30 minutes to install everything

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