Privileged ICE contacts and medical information available on lockscreen [WORK IN PROGRESS]
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@Lakotaubp
Could you please move this request to the app dev section? It might get the right attention and hopefully be picked up there. Thanks! -
@3T_Ed I have a vague recollection of this being asked before but a quick forum search didn't find it. Then again it is q&a day https://forums.ubports.com/topic/4543/ubuntu-touch-q-a-79-saturday-4th-of-july-at-19-00utc.
Or as a work around for now there is https://open-store.io/app/circle-message.mivoligo so you could try that.
As for moving here is as good as any. It's not a direct support question or about help with an app dev issue. So as it would affect all the OS here is as good as any. -
@Lakotaubp
I did recall that too, did a search to no avail. There are a lot of ICE apps on other OS that work very good. Actually it was the first app I tried to find when UT was installed on my OPO 3T. For me personally, my UT does not show the circle so the workaround will not be helpfull, using Launcher Modular for that reason, thanks for that anyway as it might trigger others to put their ICE info there. Hopefully it'll be on @syper radar as well.@BigB
Thank you for having entered this opportunity on the Q&A thread. Having an ICE app or embedded lockscreen in UT I think it can be of extreme value to the users and give potential users ease of mind it is available, showing this community really cares.In these times having the option of an ICE should be almost mandatory - even when one wishes to not being tracked by local or national - to at least provide emergency services and bystanders to retrieve life saving and therefore critical information from the phone. Same goes for a tab on first aid procedures that should be accessible on the spot, few really good examples available on other OS.
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I don't use that kind of choice, can you show me examples on other OS?
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@syper said in [Request] Privileged ICE contacts available on lockscreen + medical information:
I don't use that kind of choice, can you show me examples on other OS?
Thanks @syper for taking notice. For some examples please see the url's listed below. There are a lot of similar apps in each store when searching for 'ICE'
In Case of Emergency (ICE) lockscreen examples:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lagache.sylvain.ice_android
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.medicalid
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/echo112-medical-id/id1097077349
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/ice-lock-screen/9nblggh0fdz7?activetab=pivot:overviewtab
Red Cross examples (could be used as an add on/tab to the ICE lockscreen for most common injuries first response)
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/first-aid-by-swiss-red-cross/id903028871
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cube.arc.fa
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.rodekruis.android
Hope these examples can give you a better insight and inspire you and others to add it to the launcher/lockscreen. In my opinion this feature does not neccessarily need additional permissions as it can all be entered by the user.
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@3T_Ed Thank You for support, links, ideas I mean continuing thread
So I created simple layout concept. Don't look at colors, background etc. It's just first quick idea.
On first Image I modified my lock screen screenshot by adding button under the circle. This button should open emergency screen after double click (second attached image)
Button should be visible but not aggressive looking. Background of it may be transparent, borders may be thin and writing regular. (I left button there because It is the fastest way to get needed information and common phones can be unlocked by swipe-up not like UT devices and in stress it may cause problems)
On second image I created simple emergency screen layout
On top we have ICE contacts. On bottom more information about owner.
In my opinion, on android, there are too many steps to get needed information, so that's why I simplified it.
Please write Your ideas, I'm only a human and probably I forgot about adding something.
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@BigB
I see you like the PF 'dark' theme
Good one!Agreed that the button does not have to be overly exposed. If the user could upload his/her own image or logo it's up to the user, however I think it should be the ICE logo by default as that's the first help services would be looking for.
Your setup would be the bare minimum I guess. Some extra data could be vital like height+weight for getting a specific dose of medicine, but I suppose we can sort the necessities out (insurance number, physician, et cetera) once a dev is willing to implement the ICE feature in the current lockscreen/launcher/app. I'm sure we should be able to have all fields compiled in categories within a few hours, especially since there are many examples of similar features on other platforms.
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@3T_Ed That's right I like Pink Floyd
Their music and themes are the best!Going back to the main topic: yes, those mentioned are base information. Actually I copied these fields from LOS17 ICE screen.
I agree there should be as many fields as it's possible but of course with some priority.How about creating a list of things we want include, in first post? (that I'm able to edit)
On top there will be things most needed.If I understand correctly it might not be a problem to get this feature in close future because It's already done on other platforms.
I'm happy to hear that! -
Everything is doable! and this function seems simple to implement, it would be necessary that I have a little time ...
In any case the idea interests me.
And with your links I understand better (I am French so English is a bit complicated especially with the word "ICE")
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Thank you for your responsiveness and willingness to think along. It's great to hear this feature can be implemented. I'm well aware most development is voluntary and is being done in spare time, your effort to enable an ICE feature to UT is highly appreciated. If I would have any skills in this department I'd loved to develop this feature, which I think is a must for every user - be it with medical issues or not, one should have it on the phone from a responsibility point of view.
Would you be okay with us setting up a draft in this thread? It could give us a good insight of possible options and limitations for you to get an overview before implementing it
Proposed draft:
- parameters
- front-end: structure/lay out (simplicity is key)
- back-end: structure/lay out
- usability and possible opportunities of ICE
- must have/nice to have features
- list of (optional) data fields
- discussion on privacy/minimize app permissions
If there's any consensus on (any of) the points above @BigB can have that edited in his original post as an overview for anyone to see and for those who want to contribute.
PS.
no English native here either, it does not matter as long as we can all contribute to improving the UT experience -
@3T_Ed
indeed if a procedure is given, it will advance the project faster ... -
On Open Store there is an App called Circle Message - you can use that to put a ICE message with a phone number in the circle
They'd have to copy the number to their own phone I guess, but it's better them nothing
Top tip, set it early in the morning as it only seems to show up onwards from the time of day you initially set up
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@theare27 They'd also have to know to double-tap on the infographics to switch what is displayed to get to that item. So not really a feasible solution in many emergency conditions.
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@syper said in [Request] Privileged ICE contacts available on lockscreen + medical information:
(I am French so English is a bit complicated especially with the word "ICE")
I think we should avoid using this acronym, as in the US it is also the acronym for an arm of the DHS which is going around and collecting immigrants and detaining them, in a grave humanitarian situation.
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@dobey messages set with that app seems to take priority and is the default one displayed
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@theare27 said in [Request] Privileged ICE contacts available on lockscreen + medical information:
On Open Store there is an App called Circle Message - you can use that to put a ICE message with a phone number in the circle
Unfortunately that app doesn't work when using an alternative launcher (like Launcher Modular)
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@syper Simple to implement? You probably never looked at the codebase of Lomiri/Unity8 ^^
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@Flohack said in [Request] Privileged ICE contacts available on lockscreen + medical information:
@syper Simple to implement? You probably never looked at the codebase of Lomiri/Unity8 ^^
No doubt @syper was talking about his interest and ability in implementing such a feature in Launcher Modular in specific.
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@syper The problem is make something accessible on the lock screen. Launcher Modular is not authoritative for the lock screen, and you need to hook into that somehow. Thats basically that you need to design an API for that, and then probably also secure it with a user permission to allow or disallow that stuff.
