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    Pinephone as a daily driver: test report

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        A Former User
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        Booting: eMMC
        version/channel: all

        After almost a week of switching channels and countless reboots, I can say that Pinephone is not ready to be used on a daily basis at this moment.
        The biggest issue, in my opinion, is the unreliable radio management, especially the calls handling.
        It cannot be used, even as a dumb phone, since that will leave the user unreachable via calling and he'll have no clue about this.
        The phone showed some promising results with the versions 217-218 (development), but is really hard to say exactly if it was just a coincidence or not. As with the version 219 and 220, the issue seems to have reappeared (if it was ever gone in the first place).
        If the other bugs are more or less important (from my point of view), the calling problem is a critical one.
        Unfortunately, I'll have to wait with my test until at least this problem is solved.

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          Giiba
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          I think part of the problem here is that the hardware side of things is largely not up to the UBports team.

          There is separate development happening on kernel and drivers; for example as I understand it, most of the power savings between the BraveHeart shipping and now have been down to developmets in the CRUST firmware, which is not being done by the UBports folk.

          The other trouble is that just because the development channel updates daily, doesn't mean that there are actually changes daily. When investigating the CI it seems there is only meaningful updates every few days (not to complian in any way) which seems to build a false expectation that something should be changing in the user experience daily. This just isn't true (I think).

          I've been using the Pinephone as a daily driver for a few months now (quirks and all) since I crushed my OPO. Things aren't perfect, but the changes since I started are significant.

          These daily test threads are bound to produce disapointment; however I remain very optimistic about the future of the Pinephone knowing progress is what it is.

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            A Former User @Giiba
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            @Giiba Far from me to create false expectations. I just wanted to create a thread where we can share our daily experience with Pinephone. I'm not disappointed about it, quite the opposite. I'm sure that in a very short time the things will look far-far better, is just too much interest for this phone, from all sides. I just can wait for its success!

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              A Former User
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              As I didn't liked seeing my beloved Pinephone gathering dust on the table, I decided to give it a shot, who knows...and I'm glad I did.
              I have updated to the version 222 (development), tried with another SIM from another carrier (T-mobile). I was able to setup the APN in the cellular settings and what do you know: lo and behold! My baby is back and kicking. Wifi and mobile data works, switching between them doesn't crash the carrier.
              The small update 223 erased the previous APN settings and now I have 2: the "internet" APN that I set up before, and "default" (which came with the 223 update was now selected). I just deselect the "default" and selected "internet" instead, put the right info (APN, proxy, port etc. if needed), save, done!
              The phone is stable and reliable. Hope it remains so :smiling_face_with_heart-eyes:

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                Giiba @Guest
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                @C0n57an71n I didn't mean to imply you were spreading disapointment, and appologize it seemed that way. More that in trying to do a daily test, when we have no idea if there has been meaningful changes, will result in the back and forth on results like you experienced. My track record is all over the place; some days the phone works flawessly, other not at all, some I swear it is being spitefull and failing only when I need it t work 😝.

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                  A Former User @Giiba
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                  @Giiba For some reason, the cellular settings keeps changing my APN from LTE to Internet and that's what is crashing the mobile data and cell connection. I decided to run on 2G/3G only and see how it goes. I have data and calls, the question is how stable it is. The other good thing is that this workaround will solve the + and 00 issue (on 3G, calling a number that starts with + works normal).

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                    domubpkm
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                    @C0n57an71n is the screenshot button in the power menu in dev? I didn't see it in the last RC. If so, have you tested it?

                    https://github.com/ubports/unity8/pull/329

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                      A Former User @domubpkm
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                      @domubpkm I haven't seen it and now I'm on stable. I will switch the channel and have a look.

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                        A Former User @domubpkm
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                        @domubpkm It's not implemented, yet (latest dev version 226).

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                          domubpkm @Guest
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                          @C0n57an71n ok. Thank you. And sorry for the switch : i thought you was always in dev !

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                            A Former User @domubpkm
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                            @domubpkm Nothing to be sorry, I am back-and-forth with switching channels anyways 🙂

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                              OhneZ
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                              Hello, are there any news about stability ?
                              I have read the camera is now GPU accelerated.
                              Is there a stable channel or should I stay in the dev channel ? Ok it takes some time until my Pinephone arrives and I hope that the development will progress until then.

                              With kind regards
                              Steffen

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                                domubpkm @Guest
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                                @C0n57an71n !
                                https://github.com/ubports/unity8/pull/329

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                                  A Former User @OhneZ
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                                  @OhneZ No, there is no improvement, on any channel.

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                                    domubpkm
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                                    It is the first time i try to test pinephone with a SIM card (only wifi before).

                                    BUT my SIM card is not detected at all. Yes my pinephone must be updated. I will do

                                    BUT i want to be sure how the SIM card must be in its slot. tips for getting in and out the sim card ?
                                    could I have one or two photos of the SIM card correctly positioned in its slot. Thank you in advance.

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                                      A Former User @domubpkm
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                                      @domubpkm Lower slot, contacts facing down.
                                      Edit: you need a Mini SIM Adapter,

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                                        A Former User @domubpkm
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                                        @domubpkm photo_2021-01-08_15-48-55.jpg

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                                          domubpkm @Guest
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                                          @c0n57an71n Thanks it's ok for the SIM. Detected.
                                          As it must be 4 months since I haven't done an update, what is the best conf at the moment?

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                                            A Former User @domubpkm
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                                            @domubpkm Each one has it's downsides, but I think the stable might be close to the daily driver as in this case the camera works. In the case of the kernel upgrade channel it seems more snappy, but the camera doesn't work. Calling (the modem more exactly) is the biggest issue right now and not just with UT. All the other distros seems to have this issue with calling.

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                                              domubpkm @Guest
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                                              @c0n57an71n Ok thanks. should have been more precise: in fact what I'm most interested in is whether the cellular data works, i.e. whether the internet works with SIM (doesn't work at all for me with SIM on the Volla at the moment, ok with wifi) : so it's the conf managing best the SIM APN and cellular data that I want to test.

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