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      flohack @nero355
      last edited by 10 Jan 2022, 17:08

      @nero355 yes there will I am currently testing a SHIFT 6mq with DP out, works quite nicely (and saves you from the Slimport adapter) and I think some smaller vendors will equip that when they see that there is demand and software that can use it.

      However since Google abandoned this idea I think you wont see such devices from bigger vendors like Samsung or HTC etc... soon

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        nero355 @flohack
        last edited by 10 Jan 2022, 17:33

        @flohack said in External display:

        yes there will I am currently testing a SHIFT 6mq with DP out, works quite nicely (and saves you from the Slimport adapter) and I think some smaller vendors will equip that when they see that there is demand and software that can use it.

        https://shop.shiftphones.com/shift6mq.html

        NICE! πŸ˜„

        However since Google abandoned this idea I think you wont see such devices from bigger vendors like Samsung or HTC etc... soon

        Huh ?!

        What about Android Desktop and Samsung DeX then ?!

        Not supporting something like that is basically going backwards instead of forward into the future! 😞

        AMR SoC's are more powerfull than ever before!
        Why keep them trapped into all those phones that are getting way too hot ?!

        Such a shame that all those big companies are soo ignorant! :face_with_symbols_on_mouth:

        My phones :

        • BQ Aquaris E5 HD Ubuntu Phone Edition - Ubuntu Touch 16.04 LTS
        • ZUK Z2 Pro - ZUI Android 8.x
        • Xiaomi Mi 9T - Jolla SailFish 3.4.x Community Build

        P.S. : I am NOT a developer! ;)

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          AppLee @flohack
          last edited by 11 Jan 2022, 18:28

          @flohack
          Hopefully coming soon there will be the F(x) Tech Pro-1X

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            A Former User @AppLee
            last edited by 11 Jan 2022, 21:20

            @applee said in External display:

            @flohack
            Hopefully coming soon there will be the F(x) Tech Pro-1X

            Yes, I believe you've got one on order. I'm watching both the Pro-1x and Astro-Slide from the sidelines with interest.
            FxTec website states 'Shipping in Feb 2022', Indiegogo updates seem to roughly agree with that, members of the FxTec forum each seem to have their own crystal ball πŸ™‚ .
            How close do you reckon you are to getting yours?

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              AppLee @Guest
              last edited by 12 Jan 2022, 09:38

              Hi @moncon

              Yes I have one ordered.
              I don't have any crystal ball, so my guess is based on announcements.
              I'd say with covid and Chinese new year the delivery may start end of February, so considering shipping time, I hope to receive mine mid-March and hopefully before April. :crossed_fingers:

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                nero355 @AppLee
                last edited by 12 Jan 2022, 15:17

                @applee said in External display:

                @flohack
                Hopefully coming soon there will be the F(x) Tech Pro-1X

                I thought you were using one already ?! :flushed_face:

                And I also thought Convergence already works on that phone ?! πŸ€”

                My phones :

                • BQ Aquaris E5 HD Ubuntu Phone Edition - Ubuntu Touch 16.04 LTS
                • ZUK Z2 Pro - ZUI Android 8.x
                • Xiaomi Mi 9T - Jolla SailFish 3.4.x Community Build

                P.S. : I am NOT a developer! ;)

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                  AppLee @nero355
                  last edited by 12 Jan 2022, 17:02

                  @nero355
                  Here is the campaign for the Pro1-X
                  https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pro1-x-smartphone-functionality-choice-control#/updates/all
                  The one already launched is the Pro 1 (without X)

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                    Nakele
                    last edited by 13 Jan 2022, 01:10

                    Fairphone 4 is another with hdmi out.

                    Also

                    Any S line and Note line from Samsung above and including s8 support pd.

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                      nero355 @Nakele
                      last edited by 13 Jan 2022, 19:02

                      @applee said in External display:

                      @nero355
                      Here is the campaign for the Pro1-X
                      https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pro1-x-smartphone-functionality-choice-control#/updates/all
                      The one already launched is the Pro 1 (without X)

                      Oww... right... I forgot about that small detail! :$

                      @nakele said in External display:

                      Fairphone 4 is another with hdmi out.

                      Also

                      Any S line and Note line from Samsung above and including s8 support pd.

                      Fairphone : Maybe...

                      Samsung however is no longer a option since I have owned a Note II and a couple of friends and relatives had one too : All of them had some serious planned obsolescence issues! :face_with_symbols_on_mouth:

                      My phones :

                      • BQ Aquaris E5 HD Ubuntu Phone Edition - Ubuntu Touch 16.04 LTS
                      • ZUK Z2 Pro - ZUI Android 8.x
                      • Xiaomi Mi 9T - Jolla SailFish 3.4.x Community Build

                      P.S. : I am NOT a developer! ;)

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                        A Former User @nero355
                        last edited by A Former User 14 Jan 2022, 09:13

                        So on which devices can I actually use the convergence feature? I checked the devices page, and I found that the "Wireless External Monitor" is only confirmed working for three devices: Oneplus One, Fairphone 2, and LG G6 (Status unknown for some devices, confirmed not working for some devices). An external display via USB-HDMI cable is unlikely to work for many devices (as per the previous comments here).
                        Actually it would be useful to see on the devices page whether the cabling approach works for a specific device, to see whether the device is "convergence ready" or not.

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                          flohack @Guest
                          last edited by 14 Jan 2022, 09:56

                          @ra You see this a lot:
                          8d506837-4e24-4559-a115-b97ded28d207-grafik.png
                          Because nobody has the necessary display adapter (Idk if its even being sold anymore). You are happy to help finding compatible WiFi P2P Mode hardware (Miracast) that works, but I think that topic died pretty much and is not a good option. Also wireless monitor is laggy and almost unusable for work, you can use it for presentations probably best.

                          Cabled devices have a DisplayPort bridge over USB (Slimport, USB-DP) and are only a handful.

                          Convergence is a nice idea but needs good ahrdware support first.

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                            nero355 @flohack
                            last edited by 14 Jan 2022, 17:33

                            @ra said in External display:

                            So on which devices can I actually use the convergence feature?

                            The only good old Convergence phones that I know of :

                            • Very cheap : LG Nexus 5
                            • Very expensive : That cool ProΒΉ X phone with a hardware keyboard!
                              https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pro1-x-smartphone-functionality-choice-control#/ πŸ™‚

                            Actually it would be useful to see on the devices page whether the cabling approach works for a specific device, to see whether the device is "convergence ready" or not.

                            Convergence should get more attention in general, but sadly it has lost a lot of it over the last couple of years, while other brands have actually tried to achieve the same thing...

                            @flohack said in External display:

                            Because nobody has the necessary display adapter (Idk if its even being sold anymore).

                            I am sure you can find one if you look for it ?!

                            You are happy to help finding compatible WiFi P2P Mode hardware (Miracast) that works, but I think that topic died pretty much and is not a good option. Also wireless monitor is laggy and almost unusable for work, you can use it for presentations probably best.

                            I think Intel tried to revive it a couple of years ago by going the "WiDi" way ?!

                            Cabled devices have a DisplayPort bridge over USB (Slimport, USB-DP) and are only a handful.

                            Hmm... really ?!

                            Convergence is a nice idea but needs good hardware support first.

                            Convergence is the feature that has drawn me towards Ubuntu Touch so I really, really, REALLY hope it becomes the standard one day! πŸ˜‰

                            My phones :

                            • BQ Aquaris E5 HD Ubuntu Phone Edition - Ubuntu Touch 16.04 LTS
                            • ZUK Z2 Pro - ZUI Android 8.x
                            • Xiaomi Mi 9T - Jolla SailFish 3.4.x Community Build

                            P.S. : I am NOT a developer! ;)

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                              doniks @flohack
                              last edited by doniks 15 Jan 2022, 11:30

                              @flohack said in External display:

                              WiFi P2P Mode hardware (Miracast) that works, but I think that topic died pretty much

                              Do you mean Miracast itself died? I think I see people at work use Miracast to connect to presentation screen. It doesn't say Miracast anywhere but it's presented as some Microsoft feature and everybody there has Windows laptops, where it seems to more or less just work. But I somehow thought that this is Miracast under the hood.

                              and is not a good option. Also wireless monitor is laggy and almost unusable for work, you can use it for presentations probably best.

                              yeah fwiw, I've only seen ppl use it for presentations. but that is still a relevant use case (NB: I am avoiding the word convergence, because everybody means something else with it)

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                                nero355 @doniks
                                last edited by 16 Jan 2022, 00:09

                                @doniks said in External display:

                                Do you mean Miracast itself died? I think I see people at work use Miracast to connect to presentation screen.
                                It doesn't say Miracast anywhere but it's presented as some Microsoft feature and everybody there has Windows laptops, where it seems to more or less just work. But I somehow thought that this is Miracast under the hood.

                                That's because Microsoft and Intel call it WiDi as in Wireless HDMI and also another name I believe, but can't remember at the moment...

                                The MiraCast technology has been introduced about three times :

                                • Original introduction.
                                • Two times all over again under a new name as a totally new technology!

                                But somehow it doesn't seem to be able to get any decent market share... :grinning_squinting_face:

                                My phones :

                                • BQ Aquaris E5 HD Ubuntu Phone Edition - Ubuntu Touch 16.04 LTS
                                • ZUK Z2 Pro - ZUI Android 8.x
                                • Xiaomi Mi 9T - Jolla SailFish 3.4.x Community Build

                                P.S. : I am NOT a developer! ;)

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                                  flohack @doniks
                                  last edited by 16 Jan 2022, 17:00

                                  @doniks I tried pairing UT with an office TV screen which is prepared for presentations, it was not possible. I suspect the protocol i snot 100% the same or idk.

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