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    • N Offline
      nero355
      last edited by 10 Jan 2022, 16:53

      From a privacy point of view I would skip the fingerprint stuff completely and forget about it! πŸ™‚

      The charging stuff however...

      That really needs to work reliably!
      Hope you can fix it somehow πŸ˜‰

      My phones :

      • BQ Aquaris E5 HD Ubuntu Phone Edition - Ubuntu Touch 16.04 LTS
      • ZUK Z2 Pro - ZUI Android 8.x
      • Xiaomi Mi 9T - Jolla SailFish 3.4.x Community Build

      P.S. : I am NOT a developer! ;)

      M F 2 Replies Last reply 10 Jan 2022, 17:02 Reply Quote 0
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        Moem @nero355
        last edited by 10 Jan 2022, 17:02

        @nero355 I don't see how the option, to use your fingerprint for unlocking, affects privacy negatively. After all, you can use it or not, it's a choice.

        And I frankly don't see what's so important about offline charging either.

        So if I had to choose (which luckily is not the case), I would always choose working fingerprint unlocking over offline charging. But either way it's not a big deal to me. I can do without both of these features.

        Is currently using an Op5t
        Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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          flohack @nero355
          last edited by 10 Jan 2022, 17:06

          @nero355 The problem with offline charging is that if you forget about it it might empty your battery and/or burn in the screen at the moment, so its more critical than fingerprint 🐷

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            nero355 @flohack
            last edited by nero355 1 Oct 2022, 17:27 10 Jan 2022, 17:25

            @moem said in Known Issues:

            I don't see how the option, to use your fingerprint for unlocking, affects privacy negatively. After all, you can use it or not, it's a choice.

            It should not have existed at all, but I guess the big corp companies wanted our fingerprints too ?!

            So just like the buttons on my BQ phone are ignored under Ubuntu Touch I hope the Fingerprint Readers can be ignored on all Ubuntu Touch phones too! πŸ™‚

            And I frankly don't see what's so important about offline charging either.

            Really ?!

            It's a huge part of having a reliable phone/a phone you can count on! πŸ˜‰

            @flohack said in Known Issues:

            The problem with offline charging is that if you forget about it it might empty your battery and/or burn in the screen at the moment, so its more critical than fingerprint 🐷

            NICE! πŸ™‚

            My phones :

            • BQ Aquaris E5 HD Ubuntu Phone Edition - Ubuntu Touch 16.04 LTS
            • ZUK Z2 Pro - ZUI Android 8.x
            • Xiaomi Mi 9T - Jolla SailFish 3.4.x Community Build

            P.S. : I am NOT a developer! ;)

            M 1 Reply Last reply 10 Jan 2022, 17:40 Reply Quote 0
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              Moem @nero355
              last edited by 10 Jan 2022, 17:40

              @nero355 said in Known Issues:

              @moem said in Known Issues:

              I don't see how the option, to use your fingerprint for unlocking, affects privacy negatively. After all, you can use it or not, it's a choice.

              It should not have existed at all, but I guess the big corp companies wanted our fingerprints too ?!

              That is an opinion, and you get to have that opinion, but it does not explain how the option affects privacy negatively.

              And I frankly don't see what's so important about offline charging either.

              Really ?!

              It's a huge part of having a reliable phone/a phone you can count on! πŸ˜‰

              How so? I have never used it... well, not by choice anyway. If my phone switches on when I'm charging it, that is fine.

              Really !!

              Is currently using an Op5t
              Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

              N 1 Reply Last reply 10 Jan 2022, 18:43 Reply Quote 0
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                nero355 @Moem
                last edited by 10 Jan 2022, 18:43

                @moem said in Known Issues:

                That is an opinion, and you get to have that opinion, but it does not explain how the option affects privacy negatively.

                Ubuntu Touch is about PRIVACY and you want A COPY OF YOUR FINGERPRINT stored on your phone ?!

                Come on... πŸ™„

                How so? I have never used it... well, not by choice anyway. If my phone switches on when I'm charging it, that is fine.

                Really !!

                It's basic functionality in case you run out of battery at some point!

                How it should work :

                • Phoned turned itself off.
                • You plug in the adapter.
                • Phone boots to Offline Charging Mode
                • You see some kind of indicator that it's charging. Usually a large battery and sometimes a cable attached to it.
                • The screen turns off after 15 or 30 seconds or so and the phone keeps charging untill it's full.
                • During this period the Notification LED can sometimes light up as Red/Orange/Green depending on the status of the charging process.

                THAT's HOW ALL PHONES WORK!!!
                So we need it to work. No discussion possible! πŸ˜‰

                My phones :

                • BQ Aquaris E5 HD Ubuntu Phone Edition - Ubuntu Touch 16.04 LTS
                • ZUK Z2 Pro - ZUI Android 8.x
                • Xiaomi Mi 9T - Jolla SailFish 3.4.x Community Build

                P.S. : I am NOT a developer! ;)

                M L C 3 Replies Last reply 10 Jan 2022, 18:49 Reply Quote -1
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                  Moem @nero355
                  last edited by Moem 1 Oct 2022, 18:50 10 Jan 2022, 18:49

                  @nero355 said in Known Issues:

                  Ubuntu Touch is about PRIVACY and you want A COPY OF YOUR FINGERPRINT stored on your phone ?!

                  Yes. I don't see a problem there. I trust the UT folks not to send that fingerprint anywhere else.

                  THAT's HOW ALL PHONES WORK!!!
                  So we need it to work. No discussion possible! πŸ˜‰

                  Okay. I don't need it. Β―\_ (ツ) _/Β―
                  Discussion is always possible, by the way, but I think we're done here. A bit too much drama and all-caps shouting for my liking.
                  πŸ‘‹

                  Is currently using an Op5t
                  Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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                    flohack
                    last edited by 10 Jan 2022, 20:16

                    Yeah dont want to ride the horse until its dead but:

                    • Fingerprint sensor is a fully closed-source implementation, so UT does in fact not store any fingerprint but the Android container does this by itself
                    • Normally the prints go into the TEE part of the phone (Trusted execution environment) and cannot leave it again - I trust Androids and the hardware manufacturers design here that fingerprint data is one-way
                    • Instead the reader sends the print to be authenticated again into that secure environment and just gets back if its ok or not.

                    My languages: πŸ‡¦πŸ‡Ή πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ

                    N 1 Reply Last reply 11 Jan 2022, 17:53 Reply Quote 1
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                      Lakotaubp @nero355
                      last edited by 10 Jan 2022, 20:20

                      @nero355 I would say without discussion nothing is possible. Also smiley, winking faces, hopefully hinting at humour or irony do not always convay that.

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                        nero355 @flohack
                        last edited by 11 Jan 2022, 17:53

                        @flohack said in Known Issues:

                        Yeah dont want to ride the horse until its dead but:

                        • Fingerprint sensor is a fully closed-source implementation, so UT does in fact not store any fingerprint but the Android container does this by itself
                        • Normally the prints go into the TEE part of the phone (Trusted execution environment) and cannot leave it again - I trust Androids and the hardware manufacturers design here that fingerprint data is one-way
                        • Instead the reader sends the print to be authenticated again into that secure environment and just gets back if its ok or not.

                        The stuff you are describing sounds like the awfull TCPA/Palladium made Fritz Chip or widely better known as the TPM Chip : Am I right here or not ?!

                        My phones :

                        • BQ Aquaris E5 HD Ubuntu Phone Edition - Ubuntu Touch 16.04 LTS
                        • ZUK Z2 Pro - ZUI Android 8.x
                        • Xiaomi Mi 9T - Jolla SailFish 3.4.x Community Build

                        P.S. : I am NOT a developer! ;)

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                          cliffcoggin @nero355
                          last edited by 11 Jan 2022, 23:51

                          @nero355 said in Known Issues:

                          Ubuntu Touch is about PRIVACY and you want A COPY OF YOUR FINGERPRINT stored on your phone ?!

                          What's the difference between storing a fingerprint and storing a password?

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                            A Former User @cliffcoggin
                            last edited by 12 Jan 2022, 06:17

                            @cliffcoggin You cannot change your fingerprint, but you can change your password if needed.

                            N 1 Reply Last reply 12 Jan 2022, 15:07 Reply Quote 2
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                              nero355 @Guest
                              last edited by 12 Jan 2022, 15:07

                              @ra said in Known Issues:

                              @cliffcoggin You cannot change your fingerprint, but you can change your password if needed.

                              EXACTLY! :thumbs_up_light_skin_tone: :thumbs_up_light_skin_tone:

                              My phones :

                              • BQ Aquaris E5 HD Ubuntu Phone Edition - Ubuntu Touch 16.04 LTS
                              • ZUK Z2 Pro - ZUI Android 8.x
                              • Xiaomi Mi 9T - Jolla SailFish 3.4.x Community Build

                              P.S. : I am NOT a developer! ;)

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                                flohack
                                last edited by 17 Jan 2022, 13:56

                                Offline charging now fixed in a way that its safe to use πŸ™‚

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                                  flohack
                                  last edited by 17 Jan 2022, 23:25

                                  So seems FP reader can be fixed with a workaround :pen:

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                                    flohack
                                    last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 21:40

                                    Fingerprint sensor workaround is committed and should be in the image in 1-2 days...

                                    My languages: πŸ‡¦πŸ‡Ή πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ

                                    M 1 Reply Last reply 23 Jan 2022, 21:48 Reply Quote 1
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                                      Moem @flohack
                                      last edited by 23 Jan 2022, 21:48

                                      @flohack said in Known Issues:

                                      Fingerprint sensor workaround is committed and should be in the image in 1-2 days...

                                      Verrrry nice! Is that workaround something that might also be appliccable for other devices that have a fingerprint sensor?

                                      Is currently using an Op5t
                                      Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

                                      F 1 Reply Last reply 25 Jan 2022, 08:04 Reply Quote 0
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                                        flohack @Moem
                                        last edited by 25 Jan 2022, 08:04

                                        @moem yes indeed. It helps only though for the siuation that registering/enrolling fingerprint works, but the lock method cannot be selected. That affects at least also the Nexus 6P but there we need to upgrade to Halium 9 first πŸ˜‰

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                                          Topse 0
                                          last edited by 31 Jan 2022, 15:23

                                          Fingerprint works good for me (Oneplus 5T).
                                          I m on Version 24 (Release-Kandidat 2022-W04).
                                          Thx for your work!

                                          M 1 Reply Last reply 31 Jan 2022, 16:04 Reply Quote 0
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                                            Moem @Topse 0
                                            last edited by 31 Jan 2022, 16:04

                                            @topse-0 Oh man, I just had to try it. It works just fine! So cool!

                                            @Flohack Are there still problems with RC, or is this version safe? I can switch back if need be... (But it's just so cool!)

                                            Is currently using an Op5t
                                            Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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