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    Over the last year, I've wondered how to reduce my dependency on US tech giants.

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      • georgweissenbacher@fediscience.orgG This user is from outside of this forum
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        Over the last year, I've wondered how to reduce my dependency on US tech giants. Especially for mobile phones, this is quite difficult - you either go for a de-googled system such as #GrapheneOS (but might end up having to buy that device from Google) or you accept some compromises (regarding the quality of the device or functions of the OS).

        I've finally decided that perfect is the enemy of good and bought a #fairphone5 on which I installed #ubuntutouch. While a number of things are still missing (#Signal - @signalapp and banking apps, for instance), a lot of the stuff that I do on a daily basis already works (phone calls, text messages, emails, calendar, podcasts, photos, web browsing, Mastodon, and Matrix, for instance). Yes, I had to change my habits a bit, and I do still depend on a secondary device for some Apps, but overall, I'm quite happy. I am confident that in the not so distant future, #ubuntutouch and #postmarketos will become viable alternatives to #iOS and #android

        And I haven't enjoyed playing with an electronic device that much in a long time.

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          @GeorgWeissenbacher @signalapp Ubuntu touch is still alive??

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          • emmecola@fediscience.orgE This user is from outside of this forum
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            @GeorgWeissenbacher @signalapp I tried e/OS/ for a while, it was not bad

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              @MalcolmMielle yes, it is maintained by volunteers (many in Germany and Austria) and they just released a new version based on 24.04 LTS. I am posting this from my very alive Fairphone running UT 🙂

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              • georgweissenbacher@fediscience.orgG This user is from outside of this forum
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                @emmecola a good option, too, I just wanted to go all the way.

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                  @GeorgWeissenbacher @signalapp you might be able to get Android apps to work via Waydroid, according to this video https://youtu.be/HjfwyMuLnPo?si=OiM3BLh3lw8MzehZ

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                  • georgweissenbacher@fediscience.orgG This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @frumbly yes, that works, but my goal is to avoid Android as much as possible. My current plan is to set up a #matrix instance with a #signal bridge.

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                    • stovis@fosstodon.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @GeorgWeissenbacher @signalapp Also have a FP5, have to use android atm due to work, but it's great to know that it will live long and prosper thanks to the heroes that keep improving linuxmobile!

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                      • georgweissenbacher@fediscience.orgG This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @stovis the #fairphone6 even aims to provide support for the mainstream Linux kernel (Ubuntu Touch depends on an Android Linux kernel for now), so there is hope for a fully open #mobilelinux im the future.

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                        • gerritunschleff@troet.cafeG This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @GeorgWeissenbacher In fact same experience to me.

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                            @GeorgWeissenbacher Nice! Phones are computers after all. It's so silly that we have been collectively gaslighted to think about devices as "this is a gaming console/TV/phone/etc" when in reality it's all computers, and should be able to run any program.

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                              @stovis it does feel very liberating to run #Emacs on my phone 🙂

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                              • gemlog@tilde.zoneG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @emmecola
                                I use it daily for over a year and have zero problems with it.

                                /e/ (operating system)
                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//e/_(operating_system)?useskin=vector

                                @GeorgWeissenbacher @signalapp

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                                  @gemlog @GeorgWeissenbacher @signalapp No issues at all? Not even with banking apps?

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                                    @emmecola
                                    I don't put banking on the phones, so I don't know, sorry.
                                    I suppose I could log into my credit union's web site, but I don't know why I'd want to do that from my phone. I don't think they even have an app.
                                    What do you do with it?

                                    @GeorgWeissenbacher @signalapp

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                                      @gemlog @GeorgWeissenbacher @signalapp Well, lots of things: checking transactions, recharging my prepaid card, paying stuff, monitoring my investments 🙂 In fact I rarely use my bank's website, I do everything via app

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                                        @emmecola
                                        I use my pc for things and I don't have investments to monitor or whatever. I pay the hydro and the gas on the pc.
                                        @GeorgWeissenbacher @signalapp

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                                          @gemlog @emmecola in Europe, many banks require Apps these days to approve transactions using 2FA (even if you do all your banking on the PC).

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                                            @GeorgWeissenbacher @emmecola
                                            I have heard that.
                                            At one client I couldn't spend more than ten thousand CAD, but after I got a key with a code that changed every minute I could spend more.

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                                              Interesting with Ubuntu touch!

                                              I have pre-ordered a Jolla phone with Sailfish OS
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