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Focal and Waydroid news for Lenovo X605

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      muskist @Luksus
      last edited by muskist 23 Mar 2023, 09:02

      @luksus said in Focal and Waydroid news for Lenovo X605:

      @muskist thats strange, are you sure you downloaded and installed the Focal build and not Xenial?

      Good question! I was able to install TELEports for 20.04 (v1.17.1) so I thought it's 20.04.

      But UT Tweak Tool told me it's 16.04.7 LTS. And Waydroid didn't show up.

      So I downloaded the artifacts.zip again from the link you gave above. I chose the latest one saying "passed" and "devel-flashable: archive". Maybe that's the wrong one?

      EDIT: Just saw it: "devel-flashable:archive" != "devel-flashable-focal:archive" - sorry for the fuss! I'll try again.

      Still wondering about TELEports v1.17.1 ...

      L 1 Reply Last reply 23 Mar 2023, 09:52 Reply Quote 0
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        Luksus @muskist
        last edited by 23 Mar 2023, 09:52

        @muskist yes, the latest build is marked as canceled, but I just canceled the xenial build, you can still download the flashable-focal zip.

        I know it is a little bit confusing.

        Devices: BQ e4.5, Fairphone 2, Fairphone 3, Lenovo X605F, Pinephone, Moto Z2 Force, OnePlus5T

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          muskist @Luksus
          last edited by 24 Mar 2023, 10:03

          @luksus
          Unfortunately it doesn't work.

          After flashing boot.img and ubuntu.img and doing fastboot reboot
          the device gets stuck in a loop:

          • starting with vibration
          • showing the "Lenovo" screen for about 40 seconds
          • screen goes dark
          • starting with vibration
          • showing the "Lenovo" screen for about 40 seconds
          • ...

          I suppose you did it on a 3GB/32GB device?
          Maybe it's the known unsuitability of the 2GB/16GB device.

          I will stop trying unless you have another tip. But please don't waste your time on this! You're doing great work on the 3GB/32GB device (and I have one of those, too πŸ™‚ )!

          M 1 Reply Last reply 25 Mar 2023, 11:05 Reply Quote 0
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            muskist @muskist
            last edited by 25 Mar 2023, 11:05

            @muskist said in Focal and Waydroid news for Lenovo X605:

            @luksus
            Unfortunately it doesn't work.
            [...]

            Success!
            I flashed boot.img from artifacts.zip for 16.04 and ubuntu.img for 20.04. Device booted, starting 20.04 afterwards.
            "Ein blindes Huhn findet auch mal ein Korn" - German saying, meaning "A blind hen also finds a grain of corn once in a while" (according to deepl.com).

            Made my weekend.

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              Luksus @muskist
              last edited by 25 Mar 2023, 12:00

              @muskist said in Focal and Waydroid news for Lenovo X605:

              I flashed boot.img from artifacts.zip for 16.04 and ubuntu.img for 20.04. Device booted, starting 20.04 afterwards.

              Interesting, since boot.img should be be the same for both...

              @muskist said in Focal and Waydroid news for Lenovo X605:

              "Ein blindes Huhn findet auch mal ein Korn"

              Der war mir neu πŸ˜‰

              Devices: BQ e4.5, Fairphone 2, Fairphone 3, Lenovo X605F, Pinephone, Moto Z2 Force, OnePlus5T

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                muskist @Luksus
                last edited by 13 Aug 2023, 17:38

                @Luksus said in Focal and Waydroid news for Lenovo X605:

                there are first working focal-builds for the X605.
                Who want's to try it, needs to download the devel-flashable-focal:archive of the latest focal branch build, from this site:
                https://gitlab.com/ubports/porting/community-ports/android9/lenovo-tab-m10-fhd/lenovo-x605/-/pipelines

                Is it possible to try and flash the latest devel-flashable-focal:archive, e.g. #860314125 from "three months ago"?

                Does it even make sense? You are constantly improving, I suppose. πŸ™‚

                L 1 Reply Last reply 13 Aug 2023, 19:14 Reply Quote 0
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                  Luksus @muskist
                  last edited by 13 Aug 2023, 19:14

                  @muskist I just started a new build, so that you can try the latest devel focal build.

                  But I am currently not working on it, because I need the tablet in a usable state (with android).
                  So the only missing feature (I know of) is still the camera.

                  Devices: BQ e4.5, Fairphone 2, Fairphone 3, Lenovo X605F, Pinephone, Moto Z2 Force, OnePlus5T

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                    muskist @Luksus
                    last edited by 23 Aug 2023, 09:55

                    @Luksus Thanks, got it installed (after the usual boot problems). Everything seems to work fine (except camera).

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                      gzagatti
                      last edited by 6 Sept 2023, 09:34

                      @Luksus Thanks for putting this port together! What a tremendous effort!

                      First, I installed Ubuntu Touch with UBPorts installer. After installation, I realized that it came with Ubuntu Touch xenial which was slightly disappointing. Apart from this, the UBPorts installer was really helpful in showing me the ropes.

                      Next, I found your Git repo with the source code. I saw that there was a branch to build Ubuntu Touch focal. I managed to build the whole thing after a few issues. However, when it came to flashing the image to my device it didn't work. I managed to get past the Lenovo boot screen but my installation got stuck forever on the Ubuntu Touch loading screen.

                      Finally, I found this thread which saved my day. Thanks for sharing the link with the pre-built versions of Ubuntu Touch focal. I was then finally able to successfully install the OS on my device.

                      The last step of the installation is the trickiest one. Like @muskist, everything seems to work fine, except for the camera which was expected.

                      One last thing, I also faced the usual boot problems. I would like to understand the flashing steps on the README file better. The main branch includes the following line.

                      fastboot format:ext4 userdata
                      

                      But the focal branch doesn't. Could you clarify whether this line should be added to focal.

                      After I followed the flash instruction of the focal README file, I couldn't boot. So, I restarted the device in bootmode and issued the following additional commands.

                      fastboot format:ext4 userdata
                      fastboot -w
                      fastboot flash boot out/boot.img
                      

                      Then, there was a lot of turning on and off --- including in bootmode --- until it magically booted to Ubuntu Touch. I wish I could say what the right incantation of flash commands was, but I can't.

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                        Luksus @gzagatti
                        last edited by 8 Sept 2023, 17:58

                        @gzagatti thanks for your report.

                        I am not sure, why the format:ext4 command is not included in the focal branch, maybe I just forgot it.
                        At least, for UT to work, userdata should be formatted with ext4.
                        Beside this, I found that doing a wipe of userdata sometimes fixes the unreliable boot issue, at least for the first boot, thats why I included it in the readme.

                        It seems you have some development skills, if you managed to build it yourself.
                        It would be great to have somone who could help in resolving the remaining issues. :grimacing_face:

                        Devices: BQ e4.5, Fairphone 2, Fairphone 3, Lenovo X605F, Pinephone, Moto Z2 Force, OnePlus5T

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                          gzagatti @Luksus
                          last edited by 14 Sept 2023, 03:56

                          @Luksus thanks for your response.

                          I hope I can start helping once I get to know more about Ubuntu Touch. This is my first time using it, but I have some experience with Ubuntu.

                          I would like to report on my experience so far. After installing Focal, I spun a Libertine container up. First installation didn't complete successfully. I spun a second time successfully. To avoid the system from hibernating while spinning a new container you want to turn off the Lock when idle settings in the Settings > Battery.

                          However, I still had issues with the Libertine container as my X11 apps were not working (such as Firefox). I described the issue here.

                          I also experimented with Waydroid. Apps that require Waydroid take a while to launch. They do work, but the experience is a bit off because it is running from inside a container emulating an Android System.

                          I noted that everything is a bit slow in my Ubuntu Touch. For instance, when searching for updates the first time. It took about a good 10 minutes for the check to complete. Similarly, building a Libertine container and common apt commands inside of the container takes time as compared to my laptop. Do you think this is due to the limited Hardware or is it a Software issue?

                          I also had issues with apps suddenly quitting which is something that I don't experience on my regular Ubuntu. Again, I wonder whether this is a Hardware or Software issue?

                          Apart from the limitations above, I was having a very pleasant experience with Ubuntu Touch. That is, until yesterday when the tablet ran out of battery. I re-charged, but the tablet refused to reboot. I was left with re-formatting the disk by issuing the following commands using fastboot:

                          fastboot format:ext4 userdata
                          fastboot flash boot out/boot.img
                          fastboot reboot
                          

                          I managed to reboot the tablet but it was reset to factory settings. I lost all my data (which was Ok because I am only using the tablet for entertainment). Do you have any idea what could have caused that? This kind of experience could be devastating for some users. It is also a pain in the ass to re-install everything.

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                            Luksus @gzagatti
                            last edited by Luksus 14 Sept 2023, 18:17

                            @gzagatti of course, if you format userdata all your data will be gone πŸ˜‰

                            So the solution would be, that you will find ways to get it to boot again, without formatting userdata.
                            There are already a lot of things the users tried, and seemed to work. Like booting to fastboot and issue the fastboot command fastboot continue or boot to recovery, mount system, reboot to recovery and then reboot the system.... and such things. Or just reflash boot and system...

                            But in the end, there is still no 100% working Workaround.

                            Yes, that's the great miracle of that device: "why doesn't it boot sometimes?".

                            I know one thing, which makes the device not to boot anymore very reliable: Mounting the rootfs writeable and not mounting it read-only again before rebooting.
                            But thats only a part of that issue, because in normal usage scenarios, the rootfs always stays read only.

                            Devices: BQ e4.5, Fairphone 2, Fairphone 3, Lenovo X605F, Pinephone, Moto Z2 Force, OnePlus5T

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                              gzagatti @Luksus
                              last edited by 22 Sept 2023, 11:33

                              @Luksus Thanks for your response. It does indeed look very strange. I will keep your techniques in mind and report again if I discover anything new.

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                                pe3noATo2DOTpl
                                last edited by 25 Nov 2023, 02:46

                                Dear @Luksus and Dear other UT Friends πŸ™‚

                                31.1). I would like to buy a tablet with SIM based internet and X605L seems to be the only one which supports Ubuntu Touch (?)

                                31.2). Would you help me to take the decision if it's a good idea to spend 170+ EUR for such a 3GB/32GB X605L, please? πŸ™‚

                                31.3). Is there a chance that X605L might be ported to UT 24.04 in the future? Or maybe the 20.04 is the last one Release for X605L ... ?

                                31.4). Do you know maybe about any other SIM tablet/s which might be ported soon to UT 20.04? πŸ™‚

                                Thank you for your Great Effort and I wish you All the Best and kind regards~~ Piotrek~~pe3no.

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                                  muskist @pe3noATo2DOTpl
                                  last edited by 25 Nov 2023, 16:16

                                  @pe3noATo2DOTpl
                                  Whatever you do do NOT buy the 2GB version of Lenovo.

                                  I'm happy with my 4GB device and I would purchase one for 170.
                                  But if you do so be prepared for some booting problems. See some threads in this subforum.

                                  20.04 is the latest but hopefully not the last UT version for it. None of the UT devices has 24.04 (yet).

                                  HTH

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                                    Luksus @pe3noATo2DOTpl
                                    last edited by 25 Nov 2023, 19:19

                                    @pe3noATo2DOTpl to be honest, currently I would nobody advice to buy this tablet, as long as it has this booting issues with UT.
                                    It can be rather frustrating, especially if you buy it for a specific usecase and then you have to tinker around with this booting issues...

                                    And I can say for myself that I am not even close to a solution for this, nor I have the time currently, to investigate that issue (again).

                                    Devices: BQ e4.5, Fairphone 2, Fairphone 3, Lenovo X605F, Pinephone, Moto Z2 Force, OnePlus5T

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                                      gzagatti @pe3noATo2DOTpl
                                      last edited by gzagatti 26 Nov 2023, 15:59

                                      @pe3noATo2DOTpl I have the X605F with SIM card and 3Gb Ram.

                                      First, I installed Ubuntu Touch 16.04 with the official installer which was very easy and then Ubuntu Touch 20.04 with Luksus installer which is more advanced. The rebooting issue is a real pain in the ass, but if you have patience and know how to get yourself around Linux you will eventually get everything installed and booted. Nowadays I keep the device always charged, so that I don’t have to reboot. But even if I have to reboot, it eventually reboots to Ubuntu after some trial-and-error fiddling with key combos on start up.

                                      The tablet works well for basic functionality such as browsing the web and some light text editing. However all apps are somewhat unstable, so I’d only use the tablet for entertainment purposes. Sometimes the browser or terminal will suddenly close, especially when switching between apps. I’m not sure if this is a memory issue or the OS being unstable.

                                      In terms of performance, I find the tablet quite slow compared to contemporary hardware. Again you need patience and keep your expectations low. For instance, the browser cannot handle a lot of open tabs and will often reload unused tabs which is annoying when switching between them. It is significantly slower when opening webpages compared to my phone. That being said, you can definitely enjoy it for long reads online. And because it is slower, you don’t get tempted to switch between tasks.

                                      I love the keyboard. It is responsive and has an additional input method just for editing text which is quite useful. On the other hand, scrolling is not so smooth, and sometimes feels a bit jagged.

                                      My main pain-point at the moment is X11 support. I still haven’t figured out how to properly setup X11 so that I can open apps like Firefox. At the moment, X11 apps appear as a black window.

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                                        pe3noATo2DOTpl
                                        last edited by pe3noATo2DOTpl 26 Nov 2023, 19:18

                                        Hello my Dear UBports Friends: Dear @muskist, @Luksus and @gzagatti πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

                                        35.1). Dear @muskist, thank you for your X605 Tips, related to the Purchase and to the Pain Points πŸ™‚
                                        35.2). I cannot find any 4/64 X605 anywhere... and there are only very few of the 3/32 ones available so I'm thinking to maybe buy one of them... and to avoid 2/16, as you suggested πŸ™‚
                                        35.3). I will read and learn about the booting problems and if I buy it, I'll use the Workarounds mentioned there πŸ™‚
                                        35.4). Well, I understand that none of the devices has UT 24.04 yet. I was simply trying to ask what are the possibilities for the X605 and the potential future effort to port the X605 to UT 24.04 in the future...? πŸ™‚

                                        35.4). Dear @Luksus, first of all please accept my Enormous Thanks to you for your Great Effort in the process of porting Devices to Ubuntu Touch 20.04!!!!!!! I really admire all that πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚
                                        35.5). Well, I'm seriously thinking to buy a 3/32 X605L (or 4/64 in case there appear one for sale) because it seems to be the only UT 20.04 tablet which has the SIM built in... :), unless you would know that there's any other such tablet (with SIM socket for the internet), where there are high chances that it would be ported to UT...? πŸ™‚ BTW, I'm asking something similar here, where I even try to go one step further and I'm thinking of a big screen smartphone : https://forums.ubports.com/topic/9602/ubuntu-touch-ut-tablets-with-phone-functionality
                                        35.6). Thank you also for being honest to underline the problems, which helps me to think it over more deeply, prior to make a potential purchase πŸ™‚
                                        35.7). Dear @Luksus, would you be so kind to tell me one more thing, as the X605 Porter, please? πŸ™‚ Will the UT 24.04 porting process very difficult and therefore are there low/medium/high chances that you would try to port X605 to 24.04, please...? πŸ™‚ Sorry for re-asking that question... and thank you in advance for your Great Patience for an UT newbie like me... πŸ™‚

                                        35.8). Dear @gzagatti, thank you for sharing your X605 experience πŸ™‚
                                        35.9). Did you attach an external SIM card modem via USB? πŸ™‚ I'm asking because the X605F mentioned by you seems to be the WiFi version - correct? πŸ™‚
                                        35.10). Thanks also for having suggested the step-by-step method, which I will probably also try (if I buy the X605) πŸ™‚ Is it possible to install a TWRP as the Recovery, to be able to easily backup and restore different version of the UT? πŸ™‚
                                        35.11). Yes, I confirm that trying to be the Ubuntu Touch Ambassador requires also from me a lot of patience and time but I don't complain and I don't call that "a problem" but rather I consider it "a challenge" and I'm happy if I manage to do any further step, as well as when I can share that with the other People. I'm also very happy for my every UBports Friends who (like All of you) share your Great Knowledge with me πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚
                                        35.12). Yes, I'm also keen on Linux and probably that's why I consider every UT device as something exceptional because such a smartphone or tablet has inside the power of a Linux Machine!!! πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚
                                        35.13). I also thought to keep the X605 always charged, in order to avoid the booting problems and I hope that someone will find a workaround too πŸ™‚
                                        35.14). Well, I don't expect the X605L 3/32 to be a "Stable Power Monster" and as I already mentioned, I'm patient and happy for every my and/or Ubuntu Touch Success so I'm going not to complain, as I was doing since the UT was released in 2015 and all over all these years πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚
                                        35.15). Dear @gzagatti, I'm not an UT Expert at all... but maybe for your FF attempts the Libertine would be a solution. From what I understood watching this film, it allows to run the desktop application in a UT container: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5-TtUnIgbg

                                        I wish All the Best to all of you, thank you very much and kind regards~~ Piotrek~~pe3no.
                                        ......................................................................
                                        Devices : MeizuPro5, Mx4 & BqAquarisE5.

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                                          pe3noATo2DOTpl
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                                            DPITTI @pe3noATo2DOTpl
                                            last edited by 26 Nov 2023, 19:47

                                            So that's a luxury problem with this device. Why do you leave the tweak tool and stuff like that in the openstore πŸ˜„ A bit of fun, but I still wonder why they try to make UT run as a casstrated OSπŸ˜‡

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