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Librem 5 Phone, progress reports

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      flohack
      last edited by 11 Nov 2020, 10:27

      Just saying "Works with Ubuntu Touch" does not say anything. Of course it "will work" but thats no factual statement what will work.

      For collaboration I can say that currently there is no official collaboration ongoing. If they are silently porting stuff they need or just take the Pinephone image and tweak it, all possible, but we dont get those informations.

      BR

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        libremax @flohack
        last edited by libremax 11 Nov 2020, 11:11 11 Nov 2020, 11:05

        @Flohack If my memory is good, UBports received from Purism, first, a development kit that we can see UT running on the video and latter an other device (from Aspen, Birch or Chestnut batch, I don't remember).
        If those devices was not paid by UBports, it was a form of collaboration on the part of Purism (even if it belongs to the past and not "currently").

        I understand that strategies, interests, agendas from UBports were better aligned with Pine64 and Volla than with Purism and that decisions were, as far as I know and can understand, logical.

        But I also think that, in that matter, UBport's communication has lacked and still lacks consistency and clarity.

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          flohack
          last edited by 11 Nov 2020, 11:09

          You might be right but collaboration is for me always a present thing: And currently there is no collaboration and support. The devkit was indeed sent, and we could show initial results. But its not a usable image now and I want by all means prevent the impression that someone on our side is actively working on a port.

          Just to be clear we had to make decisions in 2019 where we put our effort in, and the Pinephone won this judgement, based on various factors. We have ever since accumulated hundreds of hours probably that would also be needed for the Librem5 to be on par.

          Since we do not have enough hands on deck, UBports Foundation cannot contribute to Librem5 enablement at the moment. We can give advice and counsel, but no developer is there to be assigned to the tasks.

          I want to prevent embarassment when the final batch is sent out and backers expect that Ubuntu Touch can be just installed and will work. This will not be the case, just a word of warning here πŸ™‚

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            libremax @flohack
            last edited by 11 Nov 2020, 11:33

            @Flohack said in Librem 5 Phone, progress reports:

            Just to be clear we had to make decisions in 2019 where we put our effort in, and the Pinephone won this judgement, based on various factors. We have ever since accumulated hundreds of hours probably that would also be needed for the Librem5 to be on par.

            However, it has been said multiple time that a big part of the work for Pinephone will benefit to Librem5 because they share most of the software stack (mainline kernel, wayland,...). And Purism contribute kernel and drivers adaptation upstream so, all in all, it's an implicit form of collaboration πŸ˜‰

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              flohack @libremax
              last edited by 11 Nov 2020, 14:53

              @libremax Collaboration must be explicit. To collaborate does not mean 2 parties that donΒ΄t talk with each other and donΒ΄t sync eventually do the right steps so that something bigger starts working.

              You cannot build a house together if you never meet at the construction site. Yes, Pinephone work will probably help the device bringup, but see the state of the Pinephone, just now they applied a new kernel and all the telephony falls apart immediately. Pinephone is fragile, still, with continuous efforts voer all communities, not only UBports.

              So unless someone steps up explicitly, and says yes I am gonna do the adaption for Librem5, it will not be functional at all. And it will not be a cakewalk to get it there. Probably north of 200 hrs at least until you are on par with Pinephone, more to be on par with an Android core device.

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                libremax
                last edited by libremax 18 Nov 2020, 21:13

                Shipping of Mass-produced Librem 5 has begun today:
                https://puri.sm/posts/librem-5-mass-production-phone-has-begun-shipping/
                https://puri.sm/posts/the-journey-to-shipping-the-librem-5/

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                  libremax
                  last edited by 21 Nov 2020, 13:37

                  "Librem 5 Visual Walkthrough", November 19, 2020

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                    makeixo @libremax
                    last edited by 13 Dec 2020, 19:51

                    @libremax said in Librem 5 Phone, progress reports:

                    Shipping of Mass-produced Librem 5 has begun today:

                    Did someone receive his Librem5 already?

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                      libremax @makeixo
                      last edited by 13 Dec 2020, 19:57

                      @makeixo You can find testimonies on Purism forum and reddit.

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                        JoeBeach @makeixo
                        last edited by 17 Dec 2020, 03:44

                        @makeixo I received my Librem 5 a few weeks ago. I am also a Patreon supporter of UBports. I want them both to succeed. I really would like to see an android-free phone that supports "convergence" of computing and telecommunications.

                        Yesterday I started trying to use the Librem 5 as my "daily driver" phone. The telephone, contacts, and text applications are not as polished and nicely interconnected as UBports. I have done some web browsing with both Gnome Web and the mobile version of Firefox. Those have gone well. There is no camera app yet. I had one issue today when I made a call just fine, ended the call, and a few minutes later could not get it to actually dial out when I tried to make another call. I'm not sure what caused that.

                        The screen and virtual keyboard are both nice. I added a 512 GB microSD and it worked fine. I installed Audacious and it plays my oggs just fine. I like that because I use Audacious on my laptop, too. The down side is that Audacious hasn't been ported to a small screen form factor yet, which makes using it a little awkward.

                        I may end up going back to my UBports Nexus 5 just because I need reliable phone/text/contacts integration. I'll keep using it for a few more days before I decide. Either way, I will also likely buy a USB-C hub so I can try out an external keyboard and monitor to see how well it works as basically a single board computer.

                        I would like to see UBports work on the Librem 5, but I understand that the two projects aren't collaborating right now and they may have sufficiently different interests that the collaboration won't happen. That's too bad, I like Unity way more than Gnome (I use Unity 7 as my desktop on Ubuntu 18.04 and will continue to use it when I upgrade to 20.04).

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                          Fla @JoeBeach
                          last edited by 17 Dec 2020, 08:33

                          @joebeach said in Librem 5 Phone, progress reports:

                          I would like to see UBports work on the Librem 5, but I understand that the two projects aren't collaborating right now and they may have sufficiently different interests that the collaboration won't happen.

                          No official collaboration doesn't mean there won't be a port for the Librem 5. I'm sure this will arrive, just be patient πŸ˜‰

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                            MV @JoeBeach
                            last edited by 18 Dec 2020, 07:54

                            @joebeach
                            Happy to hear that you have received it.
                            I should receive it in next days. I am also a Patreonsupporter of UBports and I hope too that both projects will succeed and spread worldwide.

                            MV
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