@PINE64: You guys are amazing! I think the transparency, how you develop the pinephone, and how you took all the different communities with you on your path, it is quite exemplary.
there is one thing which seems to me a little inconsistent and in convenient.
If you want to go "back" e.g. in settings, you have to reach somehow the "back"-button across the screen.
In my opinion the ui would be more convenient, if you could just swipe from left to right to go back - especially if you use your phone with just one hand.
@Stefano I hope that. It would be a reward as well for the hard work they have done and the time they have invested.
I think the Xperia X port is worked on more than a year now. Thats quite a lot of time he put in it I imagine.
I learn python at the moment. Maybe a can participate with some apps someday.
Well, that seems to me quite unfair. Volla invests money and time in that device/project. If everyone would buy a Gigaset GS290 because its cheaper than, no company/startup will try to bring another device to UT again. We should hope that they succeed instead that Volla will be able to start another project with UT someday and other companies/start-up will follow.
And : not everyone has 350€ to put in a phone.
Well, you can buy another device and put UT on it. Why it has to be the GS290?
They have spent time to build VollaOS, an UT and SFOS port. Why do people except often that other people should work for free?
I think it's great (for UBports) that you can a device, which already runs UT - without flashing etc... There are people out there, who don't want to get into that stuff.
And what's actually important for me. I want to have a device which gets supported properly. Most ports never get "finished" or abandoned at some time.
I look for a new device quite some time and for me one of the most important reason for the decision is how well a device will be supported. Therefore, there are at the moment just 2 options. VollaPhone or Xperia II with SFOS.
Its just sad, what people are willing to do, just to save some bucks.
@pavelprosto For me the Python isn't the part I am worried about. There are lots of books about python. What's still vague for me is what comes, when you have written the python file(s)? You get lost very fast ... Qt, qml, pyQt, QtQuick, pyOtherSide ...
I know there are lots of YouTube tutorials about Qt / qml, but what I have noticed is, that there mostly unstructured and for me personally not very helpful.
Your examples on the other hand are very helpful because you can see how - a not very complicated - qml file looks like. When I start with qml I will most likely need them for my app.
I have recently started learning Qml and thought it would be fun to make a small App that counts the amount of water you drink per day with a simple GUI.
can I ask you a question? How did you start with qml? I am learning Python as well. I have written a small and very simple mental arithmetic app. Before I go on I think it may be good to write a simple gui for further development. In the book I use for learning python there is a chapter how you write a gui with ktinker, which you can run at your desktop. I wonder if there is a simple guide for beginners about qml as well.
That feels like a very risky move to me.
Maybe they know something we don't. I didn't read the announcement but a Golem-article that they drop halium, which isn't maybe the worst idea, when you just have limited resources. Most likely it will come down if manufacturers like Pine64 can build a costumer model.
Does it need a SD 888, 2485 GB ram and a 123848 mpx camera? I don't think so. Do you care how much ram your device has, when the OS runs smooth? I have a Xperia Xx with SFOS, which runs quite smooth, as daily driver. When I updated from SFOS 2 to SFOS 3 I was impressed, how much faster/smoother it got.
That showed me how much you can achieve just by optimizing your software. This week I have heard that several Pixel devices share the same camera (sensor?). They just optimized the software.
Therefore, maybe it isn't a bad idea to focus on their own software instead of building every year a new halium layer to support Android devices.
There are 2 things I don't understand.
Firstly, why nearly all distros have chosen phosh as there main environment. Secondly, I thought it was all about building a mainline (kernel) device to reduce a lot for work and now there is a kernel and a camera app extra for the pinephone