And added a new part "rebirth" (La renaissance), as the last one "The fall" (Le déclin), could make readers think uTouch is dead.

What do you think about it (French and others).

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Touch#La_renaissance

Feel free to tell, if i wrote mistakes, or forgot something (and i probably did).

Feel free to try translate lol : https://www.deepl.com/home

Little update :

I managed to find some icons with transparancy (this way you can change background colors @domubpkm :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: ) in /usr/share/icons, i used thoses from suru/apps/scalable, i let them grey for the moment, but color can be changed with Gimp for instance...

I also managed to find some additional URLdispatcher compatible apps, wich are dialer app, openstore app, uTouch settings, contact app.

To add one of them, add an internet widget, and go to "Link URL" field, erase it, and add instead (edited since new findings) :

• document:// for launching document viewer

• dekko:// for Dekko mail app, or mailto://xxx@xxx.xxx for opening new mail form to setted address

• addressbook:// for contacts

• openstore:// for openstore

• settings:// for uTouch settings

• dialer:// for opening dialer, or tel://01.02.03.04.05 for opening dialer with number pre-composed, each number need to be separated by one dot (in this example, it's a french number pattern), "tel" with no number do the same as "dialer".

• message:// also exists for opening messaging app, but it opens it with form to create new message, i did not find a way to open it the same as if you open it from drawer/launcher, but if you add contact name or contact number after it + a third / it will open the contact thread (thanks @domubpkm for the finding) : message:///01.02.03.04.05

@dalharmony said in Android Apps Is A NonStarter:

I don't see how Ubuntu Touch will ever become more than a curiosity without being able to run them.

That's a bit odd to say that. It's like saying "i don't see how GNU/Linux desktop OS will ever become more than a curiosity without being able to run Windows programms"...

You don't choose GNUL to run windows apps or reject it because it can't, you choose it to free yourself from microsoft or apple. Same is UT with google or apple.

@nero355 said in Life with BQ4.5 after 20.04:

Well, I thought the following would be possible :

Keep using the 16.04 LTS release without OS updates/upgrades.
Keep using the apps that will still work with the 16.04 LTS as long as they do...

Basically what I am doing with my current Android based ZUK Z2 Pro phone

That's what i'm going to do, as i also did after canonical drop.
I stayed 2 years with their last OTA using Open Store.
This time i hope by there Pinephone(s) will be full working devices, i'd really prefer open source hardware so no more vendor obsolescence.

https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/arale/

"This device currently offers minimal features, most of the smart functionalities might not work yet. It can be a very nice second device."

I run UT on MX4 from its launch by canonical and it's a perfectly fonctionnal phone.
Only battery percentage is bugging, but as i understood it was also the case under android.
I know very few if not no one will get a MX4 now, but its device page is wrong, please correct it.

@Lakotaubp said in Volla Phone X23 about to ship:

hard/ tough discussions carried out in a polite manner with respect and tolerance for the other persons views are fine

This.

If you insist calling name and cursing community members, we'll have to pull hammer out...

Here is not a jugement for what you are saying about Hallo Welt way to sell their rebadged gigaset with "only" software work on indiegogo diferently than on their online shop, but the way you say and argue it, and call name members that don't agree with you.

You're not on twitter or reddit here !

@bocephus
Stop being offensive right now please.

You have your thinking about what should be a GNU/Linux user, ok, well, that's your right.
Now being aggressive on other users just because they think different is not in the ubports community code of conduct.

You have twitter or facebook to do that...

You don't need to be so aggressive... :flushed_face:

People here don't earn billions to do what they do, like GAFA do.
They earn nothing, and their only reward is optional donations and user using their work.
If you think some things could be better, tell, gently, sure you could even participate to make it better, it's a community work after all...

Now if you need help, ask, gently, and be patient for answer.

Have you even thought your problem could be hardware issue, sim connectors or sim port connectors, have you tried cleaning it?

@bforpc said in runnig a webserver - no chance:

If ubports should be more then a system for nerds and some special interest groups, then it should have more than the other 2 OS'es.

Before anything else, uTouch is a phone targeted os for people, any kind, that wish to get rid of gafam.

All those people need, 90% i'd say, is reliable basic smarphone features first, and if possible when such is done, reliable advanced smartphone features.

Right now there is lot to do for few devs, so just take on you and wait.

You can't ask ten devs or so, to achieve the same work that hundred of thousand do for the other 2 OS'es in the same time.

@hekathegreat
Yes UT is a "full" GNU/Linux on the OS part, but a secure mobile oriented one, so you can't install snap ou deb packages in its default state.

On android phones, it runs on some android parts, most of them are vendor drivers, and it needs to use vendor Linux custom kernel to make phone work properly, but nothing from what you do on UT is shared with google (unless you want to, i.e. by using a google account) or any other entity.

Default installed apps have nothing to do with google, contact, messaging, phoning apps, and all the others are from ubports and opensourced and of course ubports doesn't collect your personnal data.

On openstore (wich only require account if you want to review apps) it's the same, only specific apps that has to do with google or youtube account can share some data with google.

Apps on UT are strictly confined, except core apps and some other, reviewed by ubports team.

Search "halium" and HAL (hardware abstraction layer) to better understand how UT works on android native phones.

@Thomas said in PS : what about FP6 ?:

So I still have to wait a bit for VoLTE on FP5

I can't tell for sure because I have FPOS on mine, but VoLTE should work on FP5 with UT installed as it was the device used to implement it for all Qualcomm based devices:
https://forums.ubports.com/topic/10484/qualcomm-volte-call-for-testing

@Lakotaubp ?

@Thomas
Please don't do multiple threads for the same topic :
https://forums.ubports.com/topic/11297/ps-what-about-fp6/

@Thomas
UBports doesn't support dual booting feature, if you want that without pain, get a volla device.

FP6 is in super early stage concerning Ubuntu Touch : https://forums.ubports.com/topic/11097/fairphone-gen-6-is-there/12

FP5 is still in development stage, but I guess it will get stable sooner than later and there is no reason that it doesn't get volte or vowifi.

@RJDan said in is there a torrent app for UT?:

I dont see these on my open store so I guess they arent available for my phone

Surely because for 16.04 (Xenial) and you're under Focal or Noble (20.04/24.04).
Thus my warn in my first post.

@RJDan
https://open-store.io/?sort=relevance&search=torrent
Not updated since 2021 and may not work on 20/24.04

@arubislander said in Fairphone 5 bricked while attempting to install Ubuntu Touch:

which will be activated if the bootloader is relocked at any time after downgrading from Android 14

Important to say that even if not downgraded from 14 and UT directly installed on a "native" android 13 FP5 (FP5 shipped with A13), bootloader must not be relocked, because UT's not signed on FP5.

It's the beginning of the journey for the FP6 to reach some day the land of UT ️

https://gitlab.com/ubports/porting/reference-device-ports/halium-14/fairphone-6

Don't expect it to be sooner than later

@Kutzi
It will not help resolving your problem but I need to say you that "dual booting" UT different versions, even using slots a and b, it not supported.

Because it could lead to problems like the one you encounter.

Above that, I don't know how is managed userspace between slots, but there is slight difference between 20.04 and 24.04 (update from 20 to 24 not recommended), so if user data is shared between slots, it could lead to corruptions.

@liam
I'm really not an expert.
But from your log, from the beginning there is an error:

ERROR: Failed to detect compatible download-mode device.","code":1},"stderr":"ERROR: Failed to detect compatible download-mode device."}

Which can refer to not being able to use the communication line properly between pc and phone.
Or device not in proper mode (fastboot ?)

Then, some line after that :

debug: attempting to handle Error: no device

That can be lot of things, device really not in "downlode mode", or maybe a bug or problem with usb port or cable, or driver.

Try changing port, cable, or even use another version of the installer, or update drivers.

Again, I'm really not an expert, just a normal user with some experience having problems installing on a device.