Duh ! I will close this stoopid post, I had not used seriously a smartphone since several years and did not realize anymore how sensitive to location Gps services are. I tried only in 2 places in my home and both where unsuitable. When I got out in the air, Gps started to work. So it is working, really. I did a stroll this morning and it updated its position. I have still to get my hands to another brand of smartphone on Android to compare with the Fairphone 5 under UT to see how well it is working.

@MrClayPole Oh DisplayLink? Yeah no, that definitely won't work in UT. That is a proprietary tech that needs a software or app or something. It's actually a nice tech because the device doesn't need to support display out but it needs the app on Android.

The main thing here is that Ubuntu Touch doesn't have the latest and greatest support for Wayland/XWayland. This is needed so you can run traditional desktop apps. It will come in the future and there are already works on it on the desktop side of things. However, even with that, we can't expect for these desktop apps to magically work well on small screens with touch input. As mentioned, uWolf is in the OpenStore which is Librewolf but made to work better on phones. It still has some quirks though, caused by the same thing I mentioned earlier. It has no clipboard support and the performance isn't as good as the native browser.

@Faby https://forums.ubports.com/topic/11452/some-shell-programs-are-missing-in-24.04-1

@slowcyclist There is a bug report which I found later. This is supposed to be fixed now, however, it is not for me. Just sits with Server Stopped forever. I don't see how I can disable and restart the service if you can't get past "Server Stopped" to get to the menus. Seems a clean install of the app would likely fix it, but how? Is there some way to "purge" click packages; as in, remove all the configuration files when you remove them? I'm thinking it may just be easier to have a list of packages, find out how to backup my contacts, call history and messages then wipe clean? Is there some information on doing that? Maybe an app or something built into UT to do that would be nice.

99% certain this has something to do with waydroid. I get it all the time on fp4, but only after i used waydroid. Is there an open issue somewhere on gitlab?

@Thomas Yes it is. Installing from A15 is not supported, that doesn't mean you can't do it, but UT is not developed on top of A15 kernel and drivers, nor tested on it, so you could encounter failures because of this, and you will not get official support for it.

@Lakotaubp did it work? I've got a FP4 with 24.04-1 daily and would love to get VoLTE running.

@poVoq No, sorry. Only A14.

@Zardozor25 What happens when you try "fastboot devices"? Also if this is happening on Windows I had the same trouble. I resolved this by using Linux and installing android-tools. Windows absolutely refuses to see my FP5 in fastboot no matter what.

I found the strangest coincidence possibly but I think it potentially solved this whole issue. Here is what happened. Re-downloaded and deleted all images/installers I had been using for both Android and UT After re-flashing the stock 13 Image I was having the exact same issues on Android now. Flashed stock 15 for science and confirmed this was also happening there. After rolling back 13 and playing in settings it turns out that Enabling "Allowing 4G Calls" in Android 13 settings resolved my data issues in Android. Flashed 24.04 Daily (r561) and found that not only did data work and it gets 5G now, MMS also works (with WIFI off) before it constantly said there was a network issue. I am not sure if this is the fix coming in beta 2, but its miles better than my experience yesterday!

Wifi works fine on my Fairphone 5 with 24.04 (r542). USB tethering works as well.

@Futura Most of the time, yes. But I am still on Focal.

@Futura A lot of us use Cinny, a matrix client. And then matrix bridges to signal and some other services. We also heavily rely on Telegram through the app Teleports for all of the UT groups.

Another test I did tonight. The GPS on UT was disabled 60 km from here. Waydroid satStat shows the correct position. I launched GPS Toolkit on UT. I enabled the GPS. It found the correct position in less than two seconds. Perhaps it depends on the device. Mine is Redmi Note 9 Pro running Focal

ok, after downgrade to Android 13 the installation of UbunTutouch went good and the OS Startet