The main thing here is that Ubuntu Touch doesn't have the latest and greatest support for Wayland/XWayland. This is needed so you can run traditional desktop apps. It will come in the future and there are already works on it on the desktop side of things. However, even with that, we can't expect for these desktop apps to magically work well on small screens with touch input. As mentioned, uWolf is in the OpenStore which is Librewolf but made to work better on phones. It still has some quirks though, caused by the same thing I mentioned earlier. It has no clipboard support and the performance isn't as good as the native browser.

@Faby https://forums.ubports.com/topic/11452/some-shell-programs-are-missing-in-24.04-1

@slowcyclist There is a bug report which I found later. This is supposed to be fixed now, however, it is not for me. Just sits with Server Stopped forever. I don't see how I can disable and restart the service if you can't get past "Server Stopped" to get to the menus. Seems a clean install of the app would likely fix it, but how? Is there some way to "purge" click packages; as in, remove all the configuration files when you remove them? I'm thinking it may just be easier to have a list of packages, find out how to backup my contacts, call history and messages then wipe clean? Is there some information on doing that? Maybe an app or something built into UT to do that would be nice.

99% certain this has something to do with waydroid. I get it all the time on fp4, but only after i used waydroid. Is there an open issue somewhere on gitlab?

@Thomas Yes it is. Installing from A15 is not supported, that doesn't mean you can't do it, but UT is not developed on top of A15 kernel and drivers, nor tested on it, so you could encounter failures because of this, and you will not get official support for it.

@Lakotaubp did it work? I've got a FP4 with 24.04-1 daily and would love to get VoLTE running.

@poVoq No, sorry. Only A14.

@Zardozor25 What happens when you try "fastboot devices"? Also if this is happening on Windows I had the same trouble. I resolved this by using Linux and installing android-tools. Windows absolutely refuses to see my FP5 in fastboot no matter what.

I found the strangest coincidence possibly but I think it potentially solved this whole issue. Here is what happened. Re-downloaded and deleted all images/installers I had been using for both Android and UT After re-flashing the stock 13 Image I was having the exact same issues on Android now. Flashed stock 15 for science and confirmed this was also happening there. After rolling back 13 and playing in settings it turns out that Enabling "Allowing 4G Calls" in Android 13 settings resolved my data issues in Android. Flashed 24.04 Daily (r561) and found that not only did data work and it gets 5G now, MMS also works (with WIFI off) before it constantly said there was a network issue. I am not sure if this is the fix coming in beta 2, but its miles better than my experience yesterday!

Wifi works fine on my Fairphone 5 with 24.04 (r542). USB tethering works as well.

@Futura Most of the time, yes. But I am still on Focal.

@Futura A lot of us use Cinny, a matrix client. And then matrix bridges to signal and some other services. We also heavily rely on Telegram through the app Teleports for all of the UT groups.

Another test I did tonight. The GPS on UT was disabled 60 km from here. Waydroid satStat shows the correct position. I launched GPS Toolkit on UT. I enabled the GPS. It found the correct position in less than two seconds. Perhaps it depends on the device. Mine is Redmi Note 9 Pro running Focal

ok, after downgrade to Android 13 the installation of UbunTutouch went good and the OS Startet

To progress further with the initial flashlight idea, controlling the flash directly appears to work fine in the following way. #!/usr/bin/env bash flashOff() { printf '%s' "0" > /sys/class/leds/led:torch_0/brightness printf '%s' "0" > /sys/class/leds/led:switch_0/brightness } flashOn() { # 2 appears to be the minimum brightness value possible printf '%s' "2" > /sys/class/leds/led:torch_0/brightness printf '%s' "1" > /sys/class/leds/led:switch_0/brightness } So with a loop I can have a nice flashing pattern at the minimum brightness. Just need to find what to hook into so I can have it only running only while there is a green notifications icon. As for using the screen, I think the green envelope icon, possibly slowly moving along the top edge of the screen (to minimise any burn in); would be a nice option there.

@stanwood thanks I might revisit in like 6 months time and see if things have improved I actually own two FP5s (got a 2nd one recently very cheap second hand recently to muck around with) and for now I'm having fun using CalyxOS I did rather enjoy UT for my short few days using it. As it matures I'd love to re-visit it

To be honest, I don't think it's ready to be promoted as such. It should be listed there but not described as "best" since as you mentioned, it only has the devel channel and development is still active so big changes lands from time to time that may bring functionalities but could also land regressions. For example, proper sleep was implemented however there are quirks that came with it such as wifi issue while device is sleeping. Theoretically it is one, if not the best device for UT but currently I don't think it is.

@Benoit-NL This seems like the Mailo-mail-web bookmark from Open Store. It has not been updated since 2022, which is a very long time in web developement. I would consider this app abandoned, and try to find another solution. I don't have a Mailo-account, but I would try things in this order: Dekko, e-mail app from the Open Store where you can register you e-mail accounts and send and receive mails. A bit similar to how Thunderbird works, if you have tried that in the past. You would probably need to use IMAP to configure the e-mail client. Download Mimi and uWolf. Log into your Mailo account and test these two browsers. If they don't work, learn how to install "clicks" and get the uFirefox browser in stead. Lastly, install Waydroid (a program that emulates an Android phone) and check your mail through a modern browser there, or the Mailo app if they have one that works on non Google phones.