@jmlich In my opinion if you need Android apps a lot, UT is not a good choice. Waydroid is a good complement of UT for Android apps you really need, but if you need a lot of them, I think a good advise is to better stay in Android. For instance if you use Whatsapp a lot, UT will not be ideal.
You should use UT if you have UT apps for all your basic needs, except a few ones, like bank apps or public apps only available in Android and Iphones.
I second the support for working the documentation in UBports Docs, it is better to keep things organized and centralized, and at least for me reading is much more valuable that watching a video, but I'm from a non-media generation. For instance I'm still struggling with the lack of mailing lists in this community (fortunately we have this forum, because I get completely lost in the chats).
My experience with Fairphone 5:
Working in my car for receiving and sending calls. Works also connected to a Pebble watch.
Works for me, it takes 10 to 20 minutes to get a fix, in the open air or at the balcony of my place (1st floor of a building 9 floors high). Sometimes it takes longer, if I don't see a fix in 20 minutes I restart the phone.
Using the current development image the battery lasts for the whole day, unless using Waydroid for too long. I haven't seen the background apps draining battery so far.
I use it with Waydroid in the transport system of my city, no issues.
Calls: No issues, 5G or Volte are working.
SMS/MMS: SMS fine, I don't use MMS.
Waydroid: Very fluid, but it hangs often when put in the background. Not a big deal because it starts in seconds.
Connection to PC: No issues to mount the device in Linux, or connect with adb.
Wifi/network: Disconnects if moving between WIFI antenna, but otherwise no issues.
Despite that I would love not to depend on Google, I have to sync my UT calendar and contacts with my Google accounts, as this is what my job uses. But it seems that Google is changing security policies and will not allow UT to sync any more with their services. This is the email I received:
"Hello,
Although you do not have to do anything, we want to inform you that it is possible the following applications stop accessing some of the data of your Google Account, such as the content of Gmail. If these applications do not meet the requirements of the new data policy before the stipulated date, they will not be able to access the account after July 15, 2019.
Ubuntu
This change is part of our constant efforts to guarantee the privacy and protection of your data.
In the Google Account you can check, manage and delete whenever you want the applications that you have granted access to."
Is there anything that can be done to keep the ability to sync to Google apps?
@Emanuele-Sorce Thanks a lot for such a detailed guide, I think it's crucial that we have a working development environment if we want to contribute.
@gt I also have this problem. The description is that the screen gets unreactive, showing whatever it was there. Sometimes I also notice that Unity opens some random applications without any touch. Turning off and on (without rebooting) the phone gets the responsiveness back, sometimes the button has to be pressed more than once. I attributed it first to Waydroid, since it was more or less after I installed it that I started noticing this, but even if I don't start Waydroid I still see the issue.
It is especially annoying when you get a call and you cannot respond to it.
Good to hear (sorry) that this does not affect only me, because I was starting to think it is a hardware problem, and I wanted to make sure that it was not only affecting me before opening a bug report.
Has anybody already opened an issue on this?
@arubislander Maybe if somebody from the community saves a kid of Zuckerberg from drowning, or something like that...
I'm still longing for classical mailing lists with searchable archives (and the forums) for this project, and chats only for interactive non-permanent exchanges, but I'm an old guy and I lost this battle long ago. For me it is a pain to look for old information in the Telegram chat.
There are a couple of apps in the Ubuntu Store that I'm interested in and that don't seem to have any chance of being moved over by the original authors to the OpenStore. These are apps that were created like 2 years ago, received a couple of updates, but haven't been touched any further in the last two years.
My questions:
Is it OK to fork them and move them to the Openstore? (They are all free software with GPL licences)
Should the original authorship be kept in the package, or only in the code?
@libremax I did two talks in Ubuntu install parties of the Catalan Loco Team.
May 19, 2018 - Palma "UBports i sistemes mòbils alternatius" (in Catalan), Bionic Beaver Install Party, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CatalanTeam/Activitats/BionicBeaverPalma
May 26, 2018 - Foios "UBports i sistemes mòbils alternatius" (in Catalan), Bionic Beaver Install Party, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CatalanTeam/Activitats/BionicBeaverValència
The slides are copied from Lionel's and extended:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CatalanTeam/Activitats/BionicBeaverValència?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=presentacio_os_mobils.pdf
@Vlad-Nirky Thanks, very informative.
But waydroid does not have any WIFI access or mobile data. There is something that fakes WIFI, the LineageOS thinks that the network is being accessed through WIFI and not through the bridge with the UT host, but it doesn't seem to be working for me in the waydroid/LineageOS being used currently in the FP5 ( I think 13). And I doubt that even with the fake WIFI working, this will help Agps to get anything.
@Vlad-Nirky I press on "Recharger ..."
But I have to amend very much my first tests. I tested this several times after my first tests and the results were worse and more in line with the usual lag of getting a position.
This morning I went out jogging and after following the above sequence I couldn't get any position at all. I went through places with tall buildings on both sides but also through open spaces.
I doubt very much that waydroid can get any Agps result in these devices. As far as I understand, Agps gets information from cell towers, and waydroid does not see any cell signal to do that.
Having said this, I have to say that I have also a Volla Phone 22, and that one gets position immediately in waydroid, even under a ceiling. I don't know what is going on there, but it looks very different from what I see in the FP5.
Answering @Vlad-Nirky in a new topic, this was out of topic in the request for FP5 features:
@wgarcia
If you are using waydroid, could you make this test. (as you report very long >time to fix gps postion)
Disable GPS (and move somewhere else).
Launch waydroid.
Run (after install) satStat.Settings reload AGPS.
Enable GPS.
Look at the connection time in waydroid and in UT.
I did some experiments with my FP5. This is what I tried:
I installed satStat from Fdroid in Waydroid. I opened and checked settings. There is an option for Agps, but only to choose Wifi, Ethernet, VPN, ... , I left that all unchosen. I saw another menu entry, not in Settings but at the top level, side by side with Settings, which says something like "Get location from Agps" but could not find anything about reload. So the experiments I did was clicking on that menu entry. I tried this:
It got position in approximately 1 minute.
The I repeated this but with an app in UT:
Unav got location in about 5 to 6 minutes.
These experiments were done both in the same open space (within the city, with some high buildings around).
@Futura I'm located in Spain. I think Volte is working as expected, but I haven't run any explicit test to try it.
@O.o. The camera in waydroid, as far as I know, works in all UT devices where waydroid works.
I use it in a FP5 with the Pleko app (Chinese) for OCR on Chinese characters, and I have used it to scan QR codes to login into streaming services. So I think it should work in the FP4.
But if the app has controls against rooting or any other of those filters, then the app will not work in waydroid. If you say that it works in your desktop, it should work, unless those filters jump in when you try to validate with your camera.
@guybrush3pwood said in FP5 bugs - SD card and Fairbuds XL headphones not working:
Lastly... is there a way to set an 'edge' to the top status bar? The clock ends up being cut off by the curved edge of the screen
There is an "apply_notch" hack but there is no specific patch for the FP5. Nevertheless, the FP4 patch works quite well for me, but use it on your own risk. To install it, open the UT terminal and issue the following commands:
wget -O apply-notch-hax.sh https://git.io/JtIpG
chmod +x apply-notch-hax.sh
./apply-notch-hax.sh FP4
The only problem I see is that in landscape mode the farthest indicator on the left is shown partially. I tried to fork the repository and adjust the parameters to solve this but haven't been able to make my fork patch work.
You have to run the last command above each time you upgrade UT.
@sub078 Stupid suggestion: have you checked if the boot was paused? There is a text that says "click start to pause boot" and I think "click start to continue boot".
Hi @Benoit-NL and welcome to this forum.
I don't know Mailo, but if it is a web-based email platform, you have to take into account that the web browser in Ubuntu Touch, Morph, has a quite outdated web engine due to library dependencies in the system.
It is hoped that when UT moves to the next version, from 20.04 which is now to 24.04, the web browser will be updated and it will be able to deal with more modern web pages where it now fails.
There are some other alternative web browsers in UT but they are very experimental and incomplete, not ready for daily use.
I have a Volla 22, and the time it gets a GPS fix in Waydroid is very short. I haven't seen anything comparable in any of the other devices where I've seen UT running (and I have seen Nexus 5, OnePlusOne in the 16.04 times, and original Volla (crazy), Pixel 3a XL and Fairphone 5 in the 20.04 era.)
I've seen it getting a fix even indoors and getting the correct fix even if changing completely location, so I doubt it is using a cache.
One would suspect it is using a-gps in Waydroid, but if I understand correctly, a-gps uses the cell towers and so needs an active SIM card, which Waydroid does not have.
I've seen this only happening in Waydroid, if I use GPS from a native UT app the time to get a fix is the "normal" one for UT, that is, quite slow.
I don't know if anybody else has this same experience.
My experience with Fairphone 5:
Working in my car for receiving and sending calls. Works also connected to a Pebble watch.
Works for me, it takes 10 to 20 minutes to get a fix, in the open air or at the balcony of my place (1st floor of a building 9 floors high). Sometimes it takes longer, if I don't see a fix in 20 minutes I restart the phone.
Using the current development image the battery lasts for the whole day, unless using Waydroid for too long. I haven't seen the background apps draining battery so far.
I use it with Waydroid in the transport system of my city, no issues.
Calls: No issues, 5G or Volte are working.
SMS/MMS: SMS fine, I don't use MMS.
Waydroid: Very fluid, but it hangs often when put in the background. Not a big deal because it starts in seconds.
Connection to PC: No issues to mount the device in Linux, or connect with adb.
Wifi/network: Disconnects if moving between WIFI antenna, but otherwise no issues.