Dear Group,

I have tried the last 3 days without success. Apache is not running under libertine, nginx are running, but - no matter what the error is - it does not found any file in the web root directory.

Only hint - no error - i found in debug logs of nginx are:

2020/10/05 15:47:21 [debug] 9911#9911: *1 http script var: "/"
2020/10/05 15:47:21 [debug] 9911#9911: *1 trying to use dir: "/" "/var/www/html/"
2020/10/05 15:47:21 [debug] 9911#9911: *1 trying to use file: "=404" "/var/www/html=404"
2020/10/05 15:47:21 [debug] 9911#9911: *1 http finalize request: 404, "/?" a:1, c:1
2020/10/05 15:47:21 [debug] 9911#9911: *1 http special response: 404, "/?"

I have tried also running the Web Servers from the root of the nexus 5 it self. This will be working - but breaks the system and then some apps (all web browsers) are not working annymore. morph browser crashes the hole system into a reboot.

Is there a chance, to have ubport up and running and also a web server inkl. php?

Bfo

@AppLee said in runnig a webserver - no chance:

@bforpc
Please try to keep the conversation polite.

sorry, but it is nerving to hear always the questions, like ...why you want to do that ...
the most answer can be: because i want to do it, or,, because i will see, if it works ... or in my case: because i need a minimum transportable webserver and no additional hardware, cables, big cases, power supply and so on.

What is your goal ? You want to create an app using the webserver for something ? You just want to access your phone from your local network ? Do you intend to release it in the open store or is it a personal hack ?

I dont want to create an app. Where have you read this? I want to use a portable webserver (like described above).

Oh and BTW, convergence is about creating an ecosystem with apps that can change their UI depending on what is the easiest way to interact with them.
It's not relevant to your problem here.

Yes, no problem. But - if the system also can be "convergence" - it will be one thing more, what speaks for ubort.

Bfo

@AppLee said in runnig a webserver - no chance:

To get back on topic,

very well

can you be more specific on why termux is not fulfilling your need and what exactly you're looking for.

because it is also not a real system like the standard distros. It hasnt have a standard directory structure and a less of applikations available with the special paket format .
Maybe i can compile everything self, but who wants to do tihs work - for a webserer - from my view - an absolut standard deamon.
Also it is clearly slower then the CLI on ubport - on the same Hardware.

I don't think there is a magical solution to your problem, but we certainly can find something to help you out.

Its very nice, that you are trying so hard to help.
For Android problems, this forum isnt the right one.
It looks like, that Ubports - at this moment - are not far enought, to use it for my requirements.

I will use an raspi with all (negativs) around, but the raspi meets my requirement. it would have been nice, but not know.

Thx for your help/support/suggestion and this discussion.
Maybe in the near future again.

Bfo

@dobey said in runnig a webserver - no chance:

Ubuntu Touch is not a traditional PC Linux distro running on a phone. It is an OS designed for phones/tablets, including with security, privacy, and power management features suited for such use.

YES, you would not belive, but i know this very well.
I dont need this questions: "why" bla blah ... because ... i had a lot of arguments, but here is not the place nor the time to discuss. Answer the question not your feeling.

If what you want is to use your phone like a traditional Linux distro, as essentially an expensive and less reliable Raspberry Pi server,

I have already try that. But it is not the same, to have a flat Hardware with webserver and working touchscreen in high res in your pocket as a "big" raspi, with power suply and cables and and and.
Also your comment is disappointing.
We have already 2 big player and some smaller ons (like ubport). If ubort does the same like all the others: Why someone should use it, or better question: Why some reseller should use it.
Does ubport not offering "Desktop" feeling with a remote monitor and Keyboard/mouse? So what?

If its not working at this time: OK, the developer needs maybe more time. But it will be a great enhancment for all the one's who can use the hole Office in one hand- incl. development and other needfull (desktop/CLI) software.

then you are probably going to be disappointed by Ubuntu Touch, and other distributions like postmarketOS or Mobian may be more what you are looking for.

Mobian is runnung on 2 pine Phones only ...
It's not an alternatie.

Bfo.

@dobey said in runnig a webserver - no chance:

The bottom line is that yes, you can run a web server on your phone if you want to, but no, it's not going to work the same as running a web server on a stationary computer with a stable network connection.

But exactly that will be the benefit.
If ubports should be more then a system for nerds and some special interest groups, then it should have more than the other 2 OS'es.

Think bigger. Get out of your jail.
If it is not know available, OK, take your time, take what you need. But develop it in this direction.

Bfo

Yes, Thank you!!

Hi there,

i have uborts installed on my nexus 5 - so far, so good.

2 important questions:

• I need the Display always on (the mobile is connected to power)
• Where can i resize the text font (it is to small to read without galsses)?

By

Bfo

@jonius
Hi,

can you explain a little bit more, how to do exactly that, what you described?

bfo

@doniks said in runnig a webserver - no chance:

Let me try to eschew the philosophical conversation and have a technical one (and ducking my head while doing so;) ).

Thats a very well nice suggestion.

Can you give more detail about what exactly you tried and what exactly was the result. I understand you installed apache in libertine?! which packages precisely, how did you configure it, start it, test it ...

Only some standards.
Like described: If i install apache2, it will not start, because of some restrictions inside libertine - at this moment i cant remember. nginx is starting (the daemon), but no websites will be served out - Browser says alway: page not found, The nginx conf is standard, searching in webroot under /var/www/html - what has exist with content and all needed rights.
Installed i have the packages with pkg install nginx php (and some other dependencys).

In root of ubports i have try to install apache2 or nginx and mc, but - because of less storage in the roor dir, i moved /var/cache/apt and /usr/share/doc to the /userdir storage and linked it back. After that i install nginx what worked well...except for the small thing that the device no longer boots into the desktop - something was broken - yes yes yes ... i had read that, this can be happen and i dont care about it.It was a try.

Bfo

@AppLee said in runnig a webserver - no chance:

To get back on topic,

very well

can you be more specific on why termux is not fulfilling your need and what exactly you're looking for.

because it is also not a real system like the standard distros. It hasnt have a standard directory structure and a less of applikations available with the special paket format .
Maybe i can compile everything self, but who wants to do tihs work - for a webserer - from my view - an absolut standard deamon.
Also it is clearly slower then the CLI on ubport - on the same Hardware.

I don't think there is a magical solution to your problem, but we certainly can find something to help you out.

Its very nice, that you are trying so hard to help.
For Android problems, this forum isnt the right one.
It looks like, that Ubports - at this moment - are not far enought, to use it for my requirements.

I will use an raspi with all (negativs) around, but the raspi meets my requirement. it would have been nice, but not know.

Thx for your help/support/suggestion and this discussion.
Maybe in the near future again.

Bfo

@AppLee said in runnig a webserver - no chance:

We understand English might not be your native language, but please be respectful.

Sorry, but where i wasnt respectful?
Or is a critical question disrespectful?

Bfo

@Keneda said in runnig a webserver - no chance:

@bforpc said in runnig a webserver - no chance:

If ubports should be more then a system for nerds and some special interest groups, then it should have more than the other 2 OS'es.

Before anything else, uTouch is a phone targeted os for people, any kind, that wish to get rid of gafam.

All those people need, 90% i'd say, is reliable basic smarphone features first, and if possible when such is done, reliable advanced smartphone features.

Right now there is lot to do for few devs, so just take on you and wait.

You can't ask ten devs or so, to achieve the same work that hundred of thousand do for the other 2 OS'es in the same time.

Everything you said is true and i respect the developer for their work and time. I'm also an developer, so i know, what i talk abaout.
But its disappointing, if the system is touted as better as the 2 ones, with convergence AND a linux root system.
I know, it needs more time. A lot of wishes are in the pipe.

btw: I have try termux on android - and this also do not work as expected, because of google (android jail). This is good for 75% of all, but not for me. Therfore i serach for a alternate solution.

however: this discussion breaks the sense of the original forum question.
So @all (developer): I wish you the best.

Bfo

@dobey said in runnig a webserver - no chance:

The bottom line is that yes, you can run a web server on your phone if you want to, but no, it's not going to work the same as running a web server on a stationary computer with a stable network connection.

But exactly that will be the benefit.
If ubports should be more then a system for nerds and some special interest groups, then it should have more than the other 2 OS'es.

Think bigger. Get out of your jail.
If it is not know available, OK, take your time, take what you need. But develop it in this direction.

Bfo

@poVoq said in runnig a webserver - no chance:

Doesn't answer your question, but it can be done with Android and Termux in case you are open to going back to Android.

Thanks for this hint. I will give a try.

bfo

@AppLee said in runnig a webserver - no chance:

@bforpc
Please try to keep the conversation polite.

sorry, but it is nerving to hear always the questions, like ...why you want to do that ...
the most answer can be: because i want to do it, or,, because i will see, if it works ... or in my case: because i need a minimum transportable webserver and no additional hardware, cables, big cases, power supply and so on.

What is your goal ? You want to create an app using the webserver for something ? You just want to access your phone from your local network ? Do you intend to release it in the open store or is it a personal hack ?

I dont want to create an app. Where have you read this? I want to use a portable webserver (like described above).

Oh and BTW, convergence is about creating an ecosystem with apps that can change their UI depending on what is the easiest way to interact with them.
It's not relevant to your problem here.

Yes, no problem. But - if the system also can be "convergence" - it will be one thing more, what speaks for ubort.

Bfo