Concerning the 5G situation

Vulpex

Hej everyone, at the moment 5G seames to be not working for most if not all. I've notice that many people do want the 5G option available, so the future progress if possible will incorporate that option.
For my self personally, I'm fine without it and would love an option to disable or purge the 5g from my device. I'm already quite happy that gps on fp4 is lets call it optional (havn't aktivated it yet, so no connection has been made)
I use this phone for privacy and health reasons.
So it be great to be able to block certain signals by just having the hardware/software disabled.

stanwood

@Vulpex Enabling 5G NR in Ubuntu Touch is already in the UBports Roadmap. It won't necessarily be a Big Deal, but it's not the priority either, since to date only a handful of devices are 5G compatible.

I think the bigest challenge for developers is to implement IMS services (VoLTE / VoWiFi / Voice calls in messaging apps / etc..) on as many devices as possible. This is very complicated to do, as this technology depends largely on vendor blobs with proprietary source code.

Perhaps Fairphones, Volla phones range, and possibly Pixels (whose device tree is partially published by Google) will be the first to benefit (?)

Another major project is currently underway: Ubuntu Touch's move to the Ubuntu 24.04 Noble Numbat repositories.

Vulpex

@stanwood Thanks for your message and the insides given. My point was, to be able to have the choice to not have 5g working.
I know a lot of people want/need it...
Well i dont, and I'd love to have an option to just fully deactivate it

stanwood

@Vulpex Oh ok, so that's easy.:
You can just change de connection type in the network settings (3G, 4G, etc...)

Vulpex

@stanwood i know! Like to see an option to just keep it 5g free by permanent deaktivating.

stanwood

@Vulpex I'm sorry, I still don't quite understand the problem...

It's the same principle as on Android: If you don't want your phone to activate 5G, you select the "2G, 3G, 4G-LTE" band.

This will permanently disable 5G.

Vulpex

@stanwood haha alright lets talk sci-fi...
Lets imagine an evil scientist called Professor Ruffleberg has developed a death-ray and can target every device that responds to a 5g signal.

So by me taking my fairphone with ut,
I go to settings/mobile and just stick to 2g,3g,4g...
Will i be safe from the Professor's mad mashine?
Or will he still be able to target me because my device would (even if 5g is not aktivated) ping back?

Hope you had as much fun reading as i had comming up with it

Mario.CH

Hi @Vulpex,

Why do the storys inventors always think only so far that it is right for them?

For me, the aforementioned professor could easily create the same murder weapon with his top skills for 2G/3G/4G.... as well.

Is it or isn't it?

Greetings Mario

Vulpex

@Mario-CH hehe nice of course an evil mastermind would cover the whole spectrum!

I just tried to use this little story to make my point clearer. I just wanted to know, if someone wanted to completely render the 5g capabilities of the device useless if that would be possible.
I mean we are now living in a time where we are able to have alternative operating-systems running on our phones. Through that also different usage and possibillties. So it would make sense to be able to tweak certain sensors, services, cameras.

I know I must sound mad!
While everyone wants things to work properly like gps, 5g, volte and what else there might be.
I'm perfectly fine without them working!

Till today i have not switched on gps on my fairphone 4 . For the gps (I'm happy that there is a work-around for people to make gps work)
I've never tried it haha, so at least i have never made knowingly a gps connection. Not sure if my fp4 and the satellite went on a date behind my back or not but who knows

The easiest fix would be to get an old phone i know...

arubislander

@Vulpex Look at it this way, if you are wary of adverse effects of 5G, even without it being in use, then you should be suspicious of any 5G capable device, irrespective if the OS you are running on it is capable of leveraging the technology.