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New linux device NC_1 from Necuno

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      Mic_
      last edited by Mic_ 26 Jan 2020, 17:16

      Yes sorry I am very inconclusive at this point. What I mainly mean is the possibility to sell a service which companies allows to massively influence peoples 'opinions' - which at the end bases on the collection of data about these people.

      That specific phones can at the end nearly always been attacked - ok, but that is not my point. Maybe I should call it not 'security' in general.

      As I have heard AVM does really a lot of work to get the right elements from the producers of chips etc. I thought that is the right way.

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        dobey
        last edited by 27 Jan 2020, 17:51

        I would like to see some evidence of their claims, from the software side. For example, all over the web site, it talks about this "aera OS" thing, which is supposedly a Linux based OS which they make for the phone. However, despite much searching, I can find absolutely no information about it.

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          flohack
          last edited by 27 Jan 2020, 21:08

          I will try to get hands-on on FOSDEM and see. Last year they had a "non-functioning deactivated" prototype, which was essentially a 3D-printed case with nothing inside

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            Mic_
            last edited by Mic_ 28 Jan 2020, 10:29

            solutions_overview.png

            "Aera OS can be run on select off-the-shelf devices (e.g Sony Xperia X ) or it can be combined with our third level."

            https://www.f6s.com/necunosolutionsltd

            A part of SFOS maybe?

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              dobey @Mic_
              last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 15:23

              @Mic_ said in New linux device NC_1 from Necuno:

              A part of SFOS maybe?

              There's literally no actual information, so I don't want to make assumptions. There are also old blog posts where they talk about partnerships with pmOS, KDE, etc… similar to how Purism did with the Librem 5, but those are all from before this "aera OS" existed I guess.

              I would much like to know what it is actually though, and what "hardening" has been done.

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                Mic_ @dobey
                last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 18:21

                @dobey https://necunos.com/blog/necuno-solutions-and-nemo-mobile-collaboration/

                Nemo based on Mer-core. Mer-core was started as a fork from Nokia MeeGo. Sailfish based on MeeGo.

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                  dobey @Mic_
                  last edited by 28 Jan 2020, 18:42

                  @Mic_ said in New linux device NC_1 from Necuno:

                  based

                  December 2018

                  Again, this is quite old and from a time before this aera os seems to have ever been mentioned by Necuno. Obviously Nemo is not a "hardened Linux" either.

                  I'm talking about aera os only, and not the previous "partnerships" with other mobile OS projects like Nemo, pmOS, etc… which were all mentioned in 2018 prior to any claim of Necuno developing a hardened OS called aera os.

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                    makeixo
                    last edited by 29 Jan 2020, 21:10

                    Well maybe @Flohack will find something out. I don't think I belong to the user group but nevertheless it an interessting topic.

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                      makeixo @flohack
                      last edited by 10 Feb 2020, 09:23

                      @Flohack said in New linux device NC_1 from Necuno:

                      I will try to get hands-on on FOSDEM and see. Last year they had a "non-functioning deactivated" prototype, which was essentially a 3D-printed case with nothing inside

                      I did you find them?

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                        flohack @makeixo
                        last edited by 10 Feb 2020, 10:30

                        @makeixo Yes. Bascially now they showed a prototype which had cables sticking out and sticky tape held it together. On the device it was running Nemo, but again a lot of primises were given.
                        I personally think they are in early prototype stage, as I lack hard evidence they already did both software and hardware in such a away that its already beta-grade.

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                          makeixo @flohack
                          last edited by 10 Feb 2020, 13:08

                          @Flohack Well, if they continue to work on it, I think, its good thing.

                          Nemo is an interesting choice. I have always the impression, somewhere in siberia there is just 1 russian, who develops the UX. But I like what I have seen. I think it could be a nice UX/OS.

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                            Mic_
                            last edited by 14 Feb 2020, 08:59

                            Posting such a message and such a pic - and having ONLY such a prototype - is a bit strange or not!?

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                              Mic_ @makeixo
                              last edited by 14 Feb 2020, 09:00

                              @makeixo If its the same basic than Sailfish - there must be a lot of developers.

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                                makeixo @Mic_
                                last edited by 15 Feb 2020, 08:08

                                @Mic_ Well, Jolla isn't that big either. Is it the same as SFOS just with another UX? I don't know

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                                  Mic_ @makeixo
                                  last edited by 15 Feb 2020, 10:32

                                  @makeixo Yeah, I don't know too.

                                  The Nemo Mobile Telegram Group has 106 follower: https://t.me/NemoMobile

                                  Nemo on a N5 from 2016: https://twitter.com/kahelineetu/status/694989902262439938

                                  Last post is to try UT πŸ™‚

                                  https://twitter.com/search?q=%23MerProject&src=hashtag_click&f=live

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                                    Mic_
                                    last edited by Mic_ 15 Feb 2020, 11:34

                                    Seems so that even the nemo developer does not get a Necuno phone πŸ‘Ά

                                    Nemo is working on the pinephone

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                                      Mic_
                                      last edited by 26 Feb 2020, 15:53

                                      I found this here:

                                      https://www.forbes.com/sites/adrianbridgwater/2020/02/20/aera-launches-cognitive-business-brain-operating-system/#c2795bc4da8c

                                      https://www.aeratechnology.com/aera-in-action

                                      https://www.zdnet.com/article/zoho-full-stack-operating-system-and-data-protector/

                                      Could there be a connection?

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                                        dobey @Mic_
                                        last edited by 26 Feb 2020, 21:32

                                        @Mic_ Seems unrelated.

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