I am using now since 2015 ubuntu touch as my only mobile system. I bought at that time this wonderful BQ E5 (which is now broken ;/). Today I use a N5 which runs brilliant with ut.

I have started to have a look at other linux mobile systems. These experiences I would like to share here. I am sure that such a view to the others can improve ut (and the others too) a lot.

The following systems I have already tried:

1. Plasma Mobile on a Nexus 5+: https://www.plasma-mobile.org/

2. Nemo Mobile on a Nexus 5+: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo

3. SailfishOS on a Sony XA2: https://sailfishos.org/

4. Eelo on a Nexus 5+: https://e.foundation

https://necunos.com/news/nc_1-update/

I made some pictures using my (old) BQ E5 as a media phone in combination with the Teufel bluetooth speaker
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_phone
https://www.bq.com/en/support/aquaris-e5-ubuntu-edition/support-sheet
https://www.teufelaudio.com/uk/bluetooth.html

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General functions

• VOIP-phone, Emails, RSS feeds, web radio, podcasts, mp3, web-browser, videos
• Bluetooth and WLAN connectivity - plays your web music on every bluetooth speaker
• Controls your Kodimote - so you can start videos on your TV screen
• At least 12 hours music playing without charging (haven't measured;)
• Ubuntu Touch App Store (https://open-store.io/) and updates (https://ubuntu-touch.io)

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• Magnetic holder to stick the BQ at the speaker

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• list of recommended ut-apps

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If it's ok for everybody - I would write now a short message with a link to this page to Teufel and AVM ... - maybe there is somebody who is interested to develop an app. Ubuntu Touch is for everybody free of use - always developers for Ubuntu Touch apps welcome

I use my old BQ E5 as a music station. I bought some years ago a pure bluethooth speaker (https://www.teufelaudio.com/uk/bluetooth.html) and the ut-BQ is just laying on the living room table and can be connected with it and plays music files, radio stations, can be used as a KODI remote control or anything else.

I deinstalled all ut apps without media functionalities and just have pure music apps installed - and nothing else.

Why I write this? It's just an idea to offer a specific UT which can be downloaded and installed on old phones to be used as such a music phone (like e.g. sparky is offering a specific multimedia debian: https://sparkylinux.org/download/rolling/)

And I like that much more than having a lot of electronic equipment in the living area. Old phones (also with errors) can be bought cheap and also old bluetooth speakers are having less electronical components and so a lower ecological footstep.

I have installed your RSS Reader Scope and I really love that function and it is one of the most used on my phone.

I was wondering why scopes are still useable in 16.04. Now I read here that rest-scope-functionalities will be deleted with coming OTA 8: (see chapter What's Next?) https://ubports.com/pt_PT/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/ubuntu-touch-ota-7-release-192

Probably your RSS Reader Scope will than not be useable anymore?! If so - could you develop an app out of it?

@guru I think ALL people here who are using & developing UT are doing it more or less similar to that what you write. But I am afraid there are not a lot groups like us who are aware of what that really means.

As I come out of the climate movement (energy - not IT) - and UT is from my perspective a part of it - I know very well and since a long time what problems results when companies have the possibility of influencing masses of people. And this effects not only wired right orientated ones!

If I think about how masses of people could be teached which plattforms they should use to avoid all these negative developements - so this initiative above is one of the best things I ever read.

Stefan Brink: "If they do not stopp using Twitter we could dispose it" This counts for all authorities AND private companies - not for privates.

Same could happen for Fb and also WA - if they do not change the business model (a bit)

Only in german: https://app.handelsblatt.com/politik/deutschland/stefan-brink-datenschuetzer-raet-behoerden-und-firmen-zur-abkehr-von-twitter/25381124.html

https://www.swp.de/suedwesten/landespolitik/datenschuetzer-verlaesst-twitter_-folgenreich-fuer-behoerden_-42192391.html

As alternatives he mentioned podcasts, newsletters and https://mastodon.social

I still have the dream that my Nexus 5 phones will nearly have the same battery capacity than the old BQ E5. On the market are 3 different batteries for the N5 available:

• original LG BL-T9, 2300mAh
• GLK-Technologies, 2450mAh
• Polarcell, 2450mAh

Normally I thought the Powercell should be the best one. But now I found also an accu from Extremecells:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Extremecells-Akku-für-LG-Google-Nexus-5-D821-D820-BL-T9-Accu-Batterie-Battery/252400969378

An accu comparison for Samsung phones found out that Extremecells had the highest capacity:

https://www.akkucheck24.de/smartphone-akku-test-drittanbieter-vs-original/

Has somebody experiences whith them?

PureOS can only be tested on a PC or you have to order future Librem 5. I haven't found a development for another phone which can be tested?!

LuneOS with a version from the end of last year can be tested on a Nexus 4+5: http://build.webos-ports.org/releases/doppio/images/

I will also try it

@CiberSheep I don't know what I yesterday did different - but today it works without problems. Great, thx

https://www.3dnatives.com/en/mask-against-covid-19-180320205/

Maybe somebody here has a printer and could try and tell me?

https://www.deseret.com/u-s-world/2020/3/24/21191470/coronavirus-covid19-montana-doctors-mask-3d-printer-nyc-west

https://3dprintingindustry.com/news/3d-printing-helps-you-breathe-easier-with-the-pattern-breathe-mask-61327/

I found this link where somebody wants to print specific respirator masks. Maybe here is somebody who can prove that?

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7swktk?fbclid=IwAR1y1OrxwUKvCdIegBAKf_zO8JTm-X34m5nNK9f2kUaC_HrUR__KVJMIo6g

Here the german environmental minister wants to introduce "a right to repair" for customers owning any smartphone. Of course she means at first the hardware - but what helps hardware without actual software.

I guess we will come out with round about 10 years smartphone guaranty. Maybe android has to be staying up-to-date for this time - or something else....

https://bizz-energy.com/wie_schulze_digitalisierung_gruen_machen_will?xing_share=news

@Flohack Understand! Thx!

@dobey said in Kr00K and Ubuntu Touch:

Regardless of manufacturer support of hardware.

It sounds as a nice compromise - source code has to be published when manufacturer will not support hardware anymore.

@dobey Sometimes the right people are only at the wrong places.

Look what is beeing discussed - while we discuss that here.

https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/klimaschutz-schulze-will-fuer-umweltschutz-laengeres-leben.1939.de.html?drn:news_id=1106702

EU 'recommends' Signal to EU-staff and proofs WA
in german

Yes I understand - I am just thinking about legislative rules - if something like that is not already in place. This would be easily created.

I mean if a company does not want to make further support - ok, no problem - but than they have to publish the code so that people could develop it for themselves. Until nobody reclaims the need nothing would probably happen. But if that would not help because old kernels... I understood that not published drivers is a big problem in the developement of ut!?

@poVoq Never happen during the last years on my N5. I had somtimes the situation that the phone was black - but not off. If u press off-buttom for more than 5 seconds.

I never had a phone which needs a remarkable amount of energy while beeing off. This problem I only know from a Sony Vaio - never had on any other device.