OnePlus Nord - Porting to premium new devices
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@3T_Ed Even if the Volla phone seems 'closed' (for the moment?) and is not perfect (no notification leds), it is a good mid-range phone. It has an Android 9 base, is in partnership with uBports, which should guarantee development and loan follow-up. I think a bit like you, but I can't bet on the fact that such and such a new phone will have a development that will go all the way (too few super developers despite good will) or will have such a lack that will not be filled. We can think that the Volla and the Pinephone will reach their full potential in the medium term.
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Good points. I agree that sponsors devices like Volla Phone should be on my shortlist (and it is) and we should expect those devices to get them to be supported.
On the other hand I do see some advantages to include the Nord on the shortlist and to advocate for it to be ported:
- OnePlus has proven to be a (relatively) easy device to port. Devs are familiar with its devices in general.
- OnePlus has proven to be a real competition to the iPhone and Android mainstream devices like Samsung. It has become a renowned company in just a few years time. Building on that name would be the easiest way for UBports to gain brand awareness and pushing UT forward in EVERY segment, but especially in the segment UBports is likely to be most successful in
- OnePlus has proven with the Nord to take the mid-range segment seriously by manufacturing a device aimed exact towards that market by offering an affordable device built from scratch (learned from their X-version) with hardly no compromise compared to their flagship models
- OnePlus are already wide spread and accepted amongst the UT community. Chances are they will replace them by new devices of the same brand. The Nord will bring them at least the minimum specs
- OnePlus devices including the Nord are widely available already. In brick and mortar stores, online sales, even in OnePlus concept stores.
- OnePlus has an immensely growing fanbase and brand awareness in growing countries/continents even beyond the duopoly
- OnePlus has a plethora of accessories
- OnePlus has shown to be a company able - and to keep - to design, produce and distribute a lot of models in a short time
- Et cetera
Now these arguments make it very acceptable for me to think the Nord will be a very likely successor of the OnePlus One and will be on many peoples shortlist soon. I wish Volla Phone to have that same future.
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Let's assume for a moment that OnePlus will see the overlaps in their Nord model, its targeted market and related objective role UBports could play in their expansion.
If OnePlus was to go 'the Pine64 collaboration route' by sponsoring UBports (providing dev resources as well), providing several Nord devices for development and planning for a UBports edition of their 'Nord' in stores and through their existing online sales channels, supporting Ubuntu Touch.
Would that not be an extreme opportunity to break the duopoly offering the best of all worlds?
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@3T_Ed Your plea is good, accurate and valid. It is subordinated to the fact that a hypothetical partnership could be established between ONE PLUS and uBports or to the sole will (and means) of uBports to want to develop a new porting, but it is possible: in any case I think it will take time, so you (we) will have to be prepared to wait...
I'm not at all the spokesperson for VOLLA but note that two different OSes could be alternated (very interesting) and maybe the possibility of having a dual-boot (also very interesting). -
Agreed and I believe we're all into those options. OnePlus according to their videos are looking for ways to meet their unchartered potential markets, still very much depending on Android. I think it would be in a mutual interest for OnePlus and UBports to team up and the best and fastest way to break the duopoly on the market in HW and SW.
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@domubpkm said in OnePlus Nord - Porting to premium new devices:
closed
What do you mean by "closed"? I see that you still can preorder the Volla phone at Indiegogo (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/volla-phone-free-your-mind-protect-your-privacy#/) or by email at https://volla.online/; and they seem to be ironing out the last issues in the Ubuntu Touch port: https://github.com/HelloVolla/ubuntu-touch-beta-tests/wiki/High-level-epic-overview-for-Ubuntu-Touch-port
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@GT Of course the smartphone is totally 'Open' to buy it
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My expression 'closed' may not be totally appropriate: the most likely correct idea is 'not open source hardware' which may have slowed down the purchase of this good smartphone.
For what it implies, developers, more knowledgeable than me, will be able to back up the answer if they want. -
@domubpkm said in OnePlus Nord - Porting to premium new devices:
'not open source hardware'
Afaik Purism Librem 5, Pine64 Pinephone (see misconception and Necunos NC_1 should be considered to be the 'true Linux' smartphones that come as close to 'fully' open source available on the market in terms of hardware. [edit:]
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@3T_Ed said in OnePlus Nord - Porting to premium new devices:
Librem 5 appears to be the most 'freed' of proprietary hw/blobs
Is there an article you could link to that supports this claim, similar to the one from Pine 64?
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This thread I started was aimed to get insight in the possible porting of the OnePlus Nord. As such I hadn't planned to discuss the differences between Pinephone and Librem 5.
And I shouldn't have posted my earlier comment, reading back I was wrong as I was referring to the binary blob for the Wi-Fi/Bluetooth issue still in the back of my mind. I'm sorry about that, the last thing I want is to keep any misconceptions alive. The last sentence has been striked through and apologies to @PINE64 are in place.
