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Axolotl - All messages & contacts gone after "Your registration is faulty. Please consider to register again."

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      Alter @GT
      last edited by 15 Jan 2021, 22:16

      @gt : Could you tag this thread with Axolotl please? This way it will be searchable under this tag for other users. Thanks!

      Regular user, UT since 2020, Now: Volla Phone (20.04 Stable)

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        GT @Alter
        last edited by 15 Jan 2021, 22:42

        @alter said in Axolotl - All messages & contacts gone after "Your registration is faulty. Please consider to register again.":

        Lost all my messages also.

        Were you able to get your mesages back?

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          Alter @GT
          last edited by Alter 16 Jan 2021, 08:48

          @gt : No. When you re-register on Axolotl/ Signal, the key used for decryption of your old messages is lost as it gets replaced. This makes your old messages inaccessible (I believe they're still on the device). A while ago I opened a request on Axolotl Github for a kind a backup or restore feature. Ideally, re-registering would not mean losing your old messages. It would be nice if, at re-registering, the old key is kept and users had the option to import in Axolotl the old messages with this old key. A backup feature would also be good when one changes phone.

          Regular user, UT since 2020, Now: Volla Phone (20.04 Stable)

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            GT @Alter
            last edited by 16 Jan 2021, 08:52

            @alter Thanks, that's pretty bad. In my case, I have the key in a back-up from end of December. Can I wrangle the old (=correct) key somehow into the current Axolotl file tree?

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              Alter @GT
              last edited by 16 Jan 2021, 09:11

              @gt : I don't know. I imagine Axolotl only allows 1 key as this is normally what is needed. In this case, there are 2 batches of messages that each have their own decryption key. Perhaps manually the old messages could be decrypted with the old key, and the new key added. I'm just a regular user. This is a question for developers.

              Regular user, UT since 2020, Now: Volla Phone (20.04 Stable)

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                Alter
                last edited by Alter 16 Jan 2021, 12:56

                Apparently, Signal servers are still experiencing problems. According to Signal's Twitter (see Signal.org for link) due to huge influx of new customers, and capacity needed for that. People may experience problems sending messages.
                There's also a message on status.signal.org
                @Fla : perhaps a link to the status page could be added in Axolotl, e.g. ”Server status: [link]”?
                EDIT: yesterday evening, I was able to send messages again. No red triangle with exclamation mark.

                Regular user, UT since 2020, Now: Volla Phone (20.04 Stable)

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                  nogoogle
                  last edited by 16 Jan 2021, 20:30

                  Since installing the latest version of Axolotl on FP2 yesterday, the program crashes immediately after opening (when showing the chat screen). Tried a clean reinstall and problem persists. Is this a problem related to Signal server overload, is it a FP2 problem, a UT problem or a bug in the recent Axolotl version ?

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                    Fla @nogoogle
                    last edited by 16 Jan 2021, 21:55

                    @nogoogle said in Axolotl - All messages & contacts gone after "Your registration is faulty. Please consider to register again.":

                    Since installing the latest version of Axolotl on FP2 yesterday, the program crashes immediately after opening (when showing the chat screen). Tried a clean reinstall and problem persists. Is this a problem related to Signal server overload, is it a FP2 problem, a UT problem or a bug in the recent Axolotl version ?

                    Can you please send me your logs in PM?

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                      nogoogle @Fla
                      last edited by 16 Jan 2021, 22:41

                      @fla sorry for the stupid question but in which directory do I find the logfile ?

                      F 1 Reply Last reply 17 Jan 2021, 13:43 Reply Quote 0
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                        Fla @nogoogle
                        last edited by 17 Jan 2021, 13:43

                        @nogoogle this isn't a stupid question, the easiest way is to use the loggerviewer application. Then search for textsecure.

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                          GT @GT
                          last edited by GT 23 Jan 2021, 15:58

                          @gt I did some experimentation how to get my old messages and contacts back. Here is the solution, which works (with a little draw-back):

                          • I used the new re-registered Axolotl profile (all files in .config/textsecure.nanuc and .local/share/textsecure.nanuc) as basis.
                          • Then I replaced the database db.sql file with the old db.sql from my December back-up. (Apparently, Axolotl deletes all old messages from the db.sql after re-registration. On the other hand, attachments remain in the profile).
                          • Then I copied the contacts.yml from the back-up to the config folder of the new profile.

                          This works fine, I see all my messages and all contacts. The only draw-back is that I can only write a message to a contact AFTER this contact has written a new message to me. Apparently, the other person has to re-initiate the secure connection. I can live with this draw-back, as it is a matter of time that all (relevant) contacts will be working again.

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