Ubuntu Touch Q&A 110 Saturday 9th October At 19:00 UTC
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I was just thinking it would be fun and illuminating, and could possibly garner some promotion for UBports, if some recent devices (e.g. Volla Phone) that were fully configured were handed to some figures that were key to Canonical's initial effort to create Ubuntu Touch (e.g. Mark Shuttleworth, Jono Bacon, etc.) and if there impressions on how far Ubuntu Touch has come in the 4 years since Canonical dropped it were recorded and posted as a video. It would be nice to hear some talk by them on what they think could have happened if Ubuntu Edge had become a reality, as well as what they think UBports can offer for the future in terms of what has become of their "baby" once it "left home."
Just an idea! - and given that UBports has now been developing UT for around the same amount of time that Canonical did (about 4 years each - Canonical did 2013-2017) maybe one that makes sense to do now.
Best regards,
Steve Berson -
@ubportsnews Can you give us an approximate idea of when VoLTE and wifi calling will come? Will this happen with the move to 20.04? Asked the other way around, which branches will not get these features?
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@rogier-oudshoorn have you tried to install it through Libertine and scale it through Libertine Tweaks?
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@messayisto voltE carriers are cheaper, better or it is a kind of phone?
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@thousandtopics said in Ubuntu Touch Q&A 110 Saturday 9th October At 19:00 UTC:
@rogier-oudshoorn have you tried to install it through Libertine and scale it through Libertine Tweaks?
VoLTE is a protocol for phone calling (Voice over LTE) that is replacing previous 2G and 3G protocols in the major carriers for many nations (including USA) in the next year or so - and is NOT available in Libertine, or in any UT device currently.
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Hello, maybe an addition to messayisto question, i was wondering what is the situation with voice calls in teleports? I know its probably not a priority, but for me that is the only feature i miss in UT so any information regarding this would be apritiated
Thanks
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@totalsonic In regards to Firefox, it is avaliable under Libertine. The fact that it doesn't allow you to surf the web, well that's different, but it is installable.
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@thousandtopics said in Ubuntu Touch Q&A 110 Saturday 9th October At 19:00 UTC:
@totalsonic In regards to Firefox, it is avaliable under Libertine. The fact that it doesn't allow you to surf the web, well that's different, but it is installable.
whoops - I didn't see the post from Rogier you were responding to earlier, so thought there was a misunderstanding regards VoLTE.
Best regards,
Steve Berson -
App Roundup:
Pixelorama: Desktop or tablet pixel art editor
ut-sysbench-qt-gui, from Adam Schrey: This app is using QApplication and runs a cpu benchmark
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@totalsonic haha, that's fine.
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KDE's Angelfish has a very good adblocker.
Many users of the Morph browser have wanted such an adblocker for a long time.
Since Angelfish and Morph are both based on Qt5 - Couldn't we just copy Angelfish's Adblocker to Morph?
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@thousandtopics I always try to do questions to help you guys to chill a little bit, but I feel that most of the times that some questions that you answer seems to make you sort of tense.
If you feel like one of the questions is going to disconfort you. Like the last one. Skip it, you don't have to stress that much.
Oh and Alfred was only talking about root beer.
Cheer up guys. You have no idea how much we admire you.
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@thousandtopics said in Ubuntu Touch Q&A 110 Saturday 9th October At 19:00 UTC:
I always try to do questions to help you guys to chill a little bit, but I feel that most of the times that some questions that you answer seems to make you sort of tense.
If you feel like one of the questions is going to disconfort you. Like the last one. Skip it, you don't have to stress that much.Orrrr... if you notice that your strategy is not working as intended, maybe give it a rest or change the strategy, instead of telling people to respond to it differently?
I mean, if you are asking questions to 'help [the] guys chill a little bit' and you notice them getting tense instead, something is not working.
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System unpinned this topic on
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Sometimes we need to answer the hard questions that make us uncomfortable. Today was just one of those days. It's something that's been coming to a head over the past year. Only now was I able to put it into words.
The Q&A thread is a veritable minefield for me. I don't like reading about all of the things that people are excited for us to do, and knowing that the only thing I can do is disappoint them. I brace myself for impact long before the show begins: it's common for me to say "we could really use some help with that." The response to that answer is usually "easy for you to say, Dalton. You're a developer."
I've had some really long conversations with people who told me that I should stop using "if you want it, you have to do it yourself" as a default response. I really don't know what else to do though. It doesn't mean the question is bad... I might want the thing someone is asking for more than whatever I'm going to work on this week. But I also have obligations to a lot of stakeholders.
It's a frustrating effect to me. It's this thought that a higher-powered developer is going to find a way to make everyone's dreams come true. The higher power just needs to be reminded of its obligations. But that's not the case. I am a developer, but the majority of my responsibilities require speaking fluent English, not fluent C++. I can gather people around a central idea and get them all to work together toward it. I don't think that's unique to me, even within this community.
Maybe there's something wrong with my approach. I don't want people to stop asking about what's going on with their favorite upcoming feature. Sometimes I can say something really targeted and useful like, "if we had someone test that on the Volla Phone, we might be able to merge it." But I also don't like the idea that I'm just disappointing people every other week.
There is something a bit deeper than that, though. Something that a simple "just stop caring whether you're disappointing people, you can only do so much in a 2-week period" can solve... It's hard to put that underlying thing into words.
What do y'all think I should do?
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@moem You're right
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@unisuperbox If you ask me what you do, I think you should start feeling proud. Look at what you have done until now. It's amazing! Who could in the world think that your team and you have forged with all these years. And it's very usable.
I understand that you may have been feel stressed for trying to keep up with a goal that only with discipline and dedication can be possible. Just look at your desk and count how many devices all of you have just changed to be a completely different thing.
I understand that many people have different skills, and they would like to know how to help. You have even provided with some tips, so don't worry about it, we'll figure it out.
And you people, not only deserve a hug from us, but also our support. I thank you UT guys for keeping the flame alive. Duopoly sucks, we agree. And you have started with a great step something that for many of us we couldn't even imagine.
Keep all the great work that you have done, and feel proud, and laugh a little bit during the Q&A, a joke or two aren't harmful. I know that you guys may find a balance between remaining professional and have fun.
Remember that dreams can only be possible if they are organized as goals.
Just remember what Confucius said:
我們最偉大的榮耀並不從未跌倒，但每次我們跌倒時都在崛起。
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Of course that I was about to put the translation, here it goes:
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -
@unisuperbox I sympathise with your dilemma of having insufficient resources, both personnel and financial, to do the work required. Given that you are not getting the help you need, perhaps it is time to restrict the goals you have set yourselves to a more limited range which are achievable. If that means saying no to some requests, so be it. There is no shame in being realistic about what can be done, and to my mind would be a more honest response than adding yet another task to an ever growing list of things to be considered at some indeterminate time in the future.
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@thousandtopics said in Ubuntu Touch Q&A 110 Saturday 9th October At 19:00 UTC:
Look at what you have done until now. It's amazing!
I agree, it really is!
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It might help to realise that the only reason why we will always be disappointed is because we really like the stuff all y'all do. We like it so much that we want more, more than there can possibly be, and so we'll always be disappointed. At the same time, we will always be happy and satisfied with what is already there because it really is a lot, and it's good stuff, and it's amazing that it's even there!
But 'I'm such a happy UT user' does not a good Q&A question make. It's not even a question. So what you hear about are the things that are lacking or imperfect. It's the nature of the whole thing and it's not a sign of anything bad. It means that we care about this project.
Imagine if no one had any questions or requests. That would be a very bad sign.
I think that it's really good to let people know that help is needed and that there are many, many ways to help.
It's also good to let people know that helping will often mean: show some initiative, don't make the team spend two hours on explaining stuff so they can get one hour of help. Figure some things out for yourself. -
@moem said in Ubuntu Touch Q&A 110 Saturday 9th October At 19:00 UTC:
But 'I'm such a happy UT user' does not a good Q&A question make.
That may be, this is a good place starting to express it though
I'm such a happy UT user
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