Contacts sorting

chris_bavaria · 21 Feb 2023, 13:11

@lool_lauris
With Thunderbird I have now found a solution.
When creating a new contact, TB always generates the display name in the form "First Name Last Name".
This can be corrected in Settings->Advanced->Configuration.

mail.addr_book.displayName.lastnamefirst -> true
The last name is set first in the display name.
This only applies to newly created contacts.

mail.addr_book.lastnamefirst -> 1
The address book is sorted by last name, first name (even if you already have contacts).

Since I use the "Cardbook" addon in Thunderbird, I have
Right click on the Cardbook Address Book -> Edit Address Book -> Miscellaneous -> Generate Friendly Names

The default setting there are:
({{1}} |)({{2}} |)({{3}} |)({{4}} |)({{5}} |)({{6}} |)({ {7}}|)

Here is the appropriate setting:
({{4}}, |)({{1}} |)({{2}} |)({{3}} |)({{5}} |)({{6}} |)( {{7}}|)

Click on the "Apply to" button and select the desired address book.
After synchronization, all my addresses in UT are now sorted by last name and the display name is "Last Name, First Name"
For me this question is solved :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

lduboeuf · 21 Feb 2023, 13:18

@chris_bavaria
:), how do you sync contacts with your TB ?.
But when you will edit a contact. the displayName will be changed according to FirstName + LastName

chris_bavaria · 21 Feb 2023, 13:33

@lduboeuf
I'm using syncevolution and I created the configuration in the terminal with "--template webdav". My address book is a vCard 3.0.
Only the "Display name" field is used in the UT address book. As far as I found out the fields "First Name" "Last Name" are not used/displayed.
After the change in Thunderbird, I synchronized my contacts with the Radicale server (starts local in background with TB) and the subsequent syncevolution sync on UT refreshed all contacts.
If desired, I can make my configuration for the address book available as a new Topic.

lduboeuf · 21 Feb 2023, 14:50

@chris_bavaria
so you export your contacts to a vcard file from TB ( which is on your PC) to UT and then sync with Evolution ?

I ask, because i'm working on the new contact backend, and don't know a lot about that use case.
Evolution will be disabled apparently, so i wonder how that kind of task will be done later

chris_bavaria · 21 Feb 2023, 15:27

@lduboeuf
I have a small, slim service running on my PC Linux, which I start as soon as I call Thunderbird:
https://radicale.org/v3.html
Please DO NOT disable Syncevolution!
Syncevolution also synchronizes all calendars.
Here's how I set up my sync:

syncevolution --create-database backend=evolution-contacts database=addressbook
syncevolution --configure --template webdav username=chris password=123456789 syncURL=http://192.168.188.21:5232 keyring=no target-config@radicale
syncevolution --configure backend=evolution-contacts database=contacts @default addressbook
#syncevolution --configure backend=contacts database=contacts @default addressbook
# hier die Datenbank ID aus radicale dem Adressbuch zuordnen
syncevolution --configure database=http://192.168.188.21:5232/chris/cb7491ce-2181-a6cb-b3e4-ab25d8241d35/ backend=carddav target-config@radicale addressbook
syncevolution --configure --template SyncEvolution_Client Sync=None syncURL=local://@radicale username= password= radicale addressbook
syncevolution --configure sync=two-way backend=evolution-contacts database=addressbook radicale addressbook
syncevolution --sync slow radicale addressbook
# [ERROR] remote device ID 'syncevolution-01550ce8-4e8b-4ecb-b381-6538a552feb3' in config does not match the one from the peer 'syncevolution-33965ac5-3011-40cc-931e-7327cdfae0ea' - incorrect configuration?!
# Die ID in der ~/.config/syncevolution/radicale/config.ini laut Fehlermeldung austauschen ;-)
# anschließend sollte mit <$syncevolution --sync slow radicale addressbook> die Synchronisatino in beide Richtungen erfolgen

Bocephus · 21 Feb 2023, 19:14

@lduboeuf No, it will not be confusing; it will be a lot better than the current condition in any case.

Whoever thought sorting by first name was a good idea anyway? That is just not done, unless you are 5 years old and your only contacts are "Dad", "Gjammy" and "Mom".

lduboeuf · 21 Feb 2023, 22:00

@chris_bavaria said in Contacts sorting:

Please DO NOT disable Syncevolution!

cc @mardy

lduboeuf · 21 Feb 2023, 22:04

@bocephus said in Contacts sorting:

Whoever thought sorting by first name was a good idea anyway? That is just not done, unless you are 5 years old and your only contacts are "Dad", "Gjammy" and "Mom".

Not an issue for me, but probably not a heavy contact user. User should have the choice yes, that feature is common in address book managements system but the dev impact seems quite heavy.

lduboeuf · 21 Feb 2023, 22:35

@lduboeuf BTW if any developers around, address-book-app is very easy to test at least with clickable ide qtcreator, and we can work with our real data. Show in Phone mode and Desktop.

arubislander · 23 Feb 2023, 10:42

@lduboeuf said in Contacts sorting:

@lduboeuf BTW if any developers around, address-book-app is very easy to test at least with clickable ide qtcreator, and we can work with our real data. Show in Phone mode and Desktop.

@lsitongia