Best practice in UT with browser and mail
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Hey folks!
It's been a while since I tried UT for the first time and I was very impressed about how easy and flawless the installation went now with the UBPorts installer.
My old Volla-Phone starts nicely and after one nasty crash it appears to work rather stable now.
Great, thanks to all involved!!!However, I am wondering, since my last attempt with UT like 4 or 5 years ago there seem to be only little changes regarding 2 things I'd consider absolutely essential:
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Browser
Although Morph is basically working and even reaching a very good html5 rating (something which appeared to be a problem in the past) it seems there is no way to save passwords? While it may be reasoned by security concerns this seems a bit odd on modern systems. Or is there something to fill this gap? -
E-Mail Client
The only really suitable client appears to be "Dekko 2" but it almost didn't get any updates in the last years it seems and is having a looong list of issues yet, including some strange hangings always on my device.
Don't get me wrong here, I am still very thankful for all the work the author put in there and don't want to criticize, because I know how much work this means for basically no rewards - but I wonder, why is there no "Core" E-Mail client in UT with appropriate support?
I absolutely don't get that, ain't that important for the average UT user? a webbased app seems to be no valid alternative to me.
So, whats the usual approach here, am I missing something? Are people just using waydroid installing some android counterpart?
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@Smirftsch I recently asked about the browser in one of the live Q&A's. They explained that Morph is based on an old version of the Chromium browser. So not all modern websites and features will be compatible. They are working hard on an upgrade. See here: https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-news-1/ubuntu-touch-q-a-165-3960
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A bunch of work has gone into browsers, but nothing's working perfectly for now.
For me, Morph is still doing the job for the most part. I allow it to keep tabs open from session to session, and put passwords in when I need to.
uFirefox has filled the gap for some websites that didn't work, although now there's uWolf, a fork of Librewolf, that I hear is making a lot of progress.
My understanding is that the idea is to package whatever Qt 6 components are needed with Morph in 24.04, and then we'll have a much more up to date browser. And ideally a Firefox based browser like uWolf too. There was even impressive work on a Webkit based browser, Mimi.As for email, mine happens to work fine in Morph. I haven't used Dekko in a while. Maybe the dev has stepped back or been busy and nobody stepped up to take theIr place? I didn't realize it had so many issues, but the answer to why there isn't (x) in UT is because you and I didn't do it.
But I appreciate that you know this, and maybe others will have solutions/workarounds to specific Dekko 2 issues.Overall, a tonne of work and resources have been going into the upgrade to 24.04 and some other major improvements, like VoLTE, and encryption. Big, big accomplishments.
After 24.04 lands/stabilizes, perhaps somebody will have time for Dekko.Welcome back! Hope you find solutions that work for you!
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@rdfrs said in Best practice in UT with browser and mail:
@Smirftsch I recently asked about the browser in one of the live Q&A's. They explained that Morph is based on an old version of the Chromium browser. So not all modern websites and features will be compatible. They are working hard on an upgrade. See here: https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-news-1/ubuntu-touch-q-a-165-3960
That definitely sounds good
@wally said in Best practice in UT with browser and mail:
A bunch of work has gone into browsers, but nothing's working perfectly for now.
For me, Morph is still doing the job for the most part. I allow it to keep tabs open from session to session, and put passwords in when I need to.
uFirefox has filled the gap for some websites that didn't work, although now there's uWolf, a fork of Librewolf, that I hear is making a lot of progress.
My understanding is that the idea is to package whatever Qt 6 components are needed with Morph in 24.04, and then we'll have a much more up to date browser. And ideally a Firefox based browser like uWolf too. There was even impressive work on a Webkit based browser, Mimi.I found uWolf in store testing it now - as for the rest it seems I have to dig a little deeper. Valuable info!
As for email, mine happens to work fine in Morph. I haven't used Dekko in a while. Maybe the dev has stepped back or been busy and nobody stepped up to take theIr place? I didn't realize it had so many issues, but the answer to why there isn't (x) in UT is because you and I didn't do it.
But I appreciate that you know this, and maybe others will have solutions/workarounds to specific Dekko 2 issues.I assume something like this for the dev as well, which is my point here, I really think an email client is essential basic need for any (mobile) OS and should be a core component not relying on only maybe one single dev.
Overall, a tonne of work and resources have been going into the upgrade to 24.04 and some other major improvements, like VoLTE, and encryption. Big, big accomplishments.
After 24.04 lands/stabilizes, perhaps somebody will have time for Dekko.Welcome back! Hope you find solutions that work for you!
that sounds all very promising and thank you for this very warm welcome!
I hope there will be more input for me yet, since I am looking for a Linux based mobile phone solution as daily driver and UT is becoming definitely interesting