Tip: call a contact with one hand (secret UT key !)

lduboeuf

@wally said in Tip: call a contact with one hand (secret UT key !):

As somebody who still often "dials" a phone number, I always just figured those contact names that appeared as I started dialing were predictions based on the phone number.. but pretty bad predictions
Finally I understand! That seems like a really useful feature!
(also, I think T9 WAS the one where you only had to press each number a single time.)

As i did the T9 feature few years ago, i'm interested in what you mean by "pretty bad predictions" when typing numbers. Works well on my side when starting to dial for a number and/or for the letters. But may have some issue if e.g number is stored with a region prefix or not.

gpatel-fr

@lduboeuf said in Tip: call a contact with one hand (secret UT key !):

Works well on my side when starting to dial for a number and/or for the letters. But may have some issue if e.g number is stored with a region prefix or not.

ah it finally dawned on me. How to use the letter dialing: if you want to call someone whose name in your contacts is say 'fred idotme', press first 3 for f (3 is def) and then 7 for r (7 is pqrs) and the software will propose (among possibly other ones) the searched for contact. As was said I think in Tintin, it's obvious once you think of it. Ah the nostalgia of desktop software lost in the mists of time when there was a F1 key to get help.

Apart of this, yes it works pretty well except that of course if you are trying to search for a number, as in my country all portable number begin by either 06 or 07 it's not so useful. And as you say, if you use a prefix like the #31# that is used in my country to be able to call someone without revealing your own, using the real number does not lead for a prediction; that is, if the contact is #31#0102030405, typing 0102 does not display the contact even if it's the only one matching on the real number.
To be candid that's why I almost exclusively use the contacts list to call people

wally

@lduboeuf Pardon my miscommunication! I only thought the predictions were bad when I didn't understand that the T9 element was happening, and they seemed to come out of nowhere and not relate to anything. A laugh solely at my own ignorance

But I don't get any predictions based on phone number, whether I use the region prefix or not. All predictions that I see are T9 based.
Once I have entered the full phone number of a contact in the dialer, it displays the contact name. But that's clearly a different feature, as the contact name does not appear in a box like it does with predictions.
I can type all but the final digit, with or without regional code, without seeing a prediction based on phone number.
I thought it might relate to parentheses in phone numbers as displayed in Contacts, which is a regional custom here, but I've found contacts without parentheses and these don't come up either.
I've also just tried adding a nice Ciderie de Bretagne as a contact, rebooting, and dialing the number, both with and without the 33 - still no prediction based on number.

Oneplus Nord N10, 20.04 OTA 11, Canada.

In any case, i love this T9 feature. Thank you!!

lduboeuf

@wally said in Tip: call a contact with one hand (secret UT key !):

@lduboeuf Pardon my miscommunication! I only thought the predictions were bad when I didn't understand that the T9 element was happening, and they seemed to come out of nowhere and not relate to anything. A laugh solely at my own ignorance

But I don't get any predictions based on phone number, whether I use the region prefix or not. All predictions that I see are T9 based.
Once I have entered the full phone number of a contact in the dialer, it displays the contact name. But that's clearly a different feature, as the contact name does not appear in a box like it does with predictions.
I can type all but the final digit, with or without regional code, without seeing a prediction based on phone number.
I thought it might relate to parentheses in phone numbers as displayed in Contacts, which is a regional custom here, but I've found contacts without parentheses and these don't come up either.
I've also just tried adding a nice Ciderie de Bretagne as a contact, rebooting, and dialing the number, both with and without the 33 - still no prediction based on number.

Oneplus Nord N10, 20.04 OTA 11, Canada.

In any case, i love this T9 feature. Thank you!!

ok, i will need to look at it then, because it works for me by either using a prefix '+33' or start with 06 or 07

gpatel-fr

@wally said in Tip: call a contact with one hand (secret UT key !):

20.04 OTA 11

under 24.04.1 I get

dpkg -l | grep dialer-app
ii  lomiri-dialer-app                             2.0.0+0~20250814161446.20+ubports~dev~1.gbp4bba62

I don't have access to a phone running Focal tp check it, but under

http://repo.ubports.com/dists/focal/main/binary-amd64/Packages

I see

Package: dialer-app
Priority: optional
Section: x11
Installed-Size: 1750
Maintainer: UBports Developers <devs@ubports.com>
Architecture: amd64
Version: 1.0.0+0~20241101095734.1+ubports20.04~1.gbpe21919

so are we speaking of the same thing ?

wally

@gpatel-fr said in Tip: call a contact with one hand (secret UT key !):

Version: 1.0.0+0~20241101095734.1+ubports20.04~1.gbpe21919

I do get this exact output for version number as output to the grep command you gave. But my assumption, based on Lionel not mentioning the version, and based on the fact that I do see suggestions based on contact name, is that this was all introduced before 24.04.

@lduboeuf Your development time is valuable! Maybe let me ask around a bit first on Matrix/Telegram for other people to test and make sure it's not just me before you go spending time digging into it.
I have now tested on a broken old Oneplus 5 too, and it's the same for me there- perfect predictions based on T9 spelling contact names, but no predictions based on phone number.

gpatel-fr

@wally said in Tip: call a contact with one hand (secret UT key !):

this was all introduced before 24.04.

from the code history, it seems that this is correct, you should have this feature.
FWIW it's based on 3 digits when searching for local numbers, and 2 digits after the '+' for international numbers.

wally

@lduboeuf Aha! I've gotten somewhere. In short, it relates to what language my system is set to.

I was suspecting some sort of regional dialing syntax issue. I tried changing my location in System Settings, to no effect. Then I tried changing my language to Français (France), and sure enough, up comes the cidrerie after dialing +33029, or also after dialing 029.
Attempting to dial Canadian numbers while set to Français (France) didn't yield any predictions regardless of syntax.

It only then occurred to me that my language is normally set to English (UK), not English (Canada). Setting it to English (Canada), I CAN get certain contacts to be predicted, but only if I start by dialing +1, and only then for contacts that happen to have the number saved starting with +1. My Contacts seem to have a wide variety of snytaxes, some starting in +1, others simply with 1, others without the regional code at all. Also some using parentheses, some not. Perhaps this relates to a Contact list that has been exported from one device to another and from 16.04 to 20.04, with different contacts being added at different times. The contact list has always been within UT.

I have never dialed a plus sign, living here. Using Google Maps, if I set my VPN to Canada, I see (555) 555-5555, where if set to, for example, France and searching a Canadian business I see +1 555-555-5555.
So in short, even with my language set to Canadian English, I wouldn't have stumbled across any predictions based on phone numbers. It only works for numbers stored with a +, and only if I type the + when dialing.

If it weren't too complicated a change, perhaps if the numeric prediction search dropped all special characters like + and (, it would work more internationally? But I have no idea how feasible this is.
The predictions based on contact name are probably useful to a lot more people anyway, and I don't want to create more work for you. Just trying to be helpful in the small ways that I can by testing and reporting.

lduboeuf

@wally said in Tip: call a contact with one hand (secret UT key !):

@lduboeuf Aha! I've gotten somewhere. In short, it relates to what language my system is set to.

I was suspecting some sort of regional dialing syntax issue. I tried changing my location in System Settings, to no effect. Then I tried changing my language to Français (France), and sure enough, up comes the cidrerie after dialing +33029, or also after dialing 029.
Attempting to dial Canadian numbers while set to Français (France) didn't yield any predictions regardless of syntax.

It only then occurred to me that my language is normally set to English (UK), not English (Canada). Setting it to English (Canada), I CAN get certain contacts to be predicted, but only if I start by dialing +1, and only then for contacts that happen to have the number saved starting with +1. My Contacts seem to have a wide variety of snytaxes, some starting in +1, others simply with 1, others without the regional code at all. Also some using parentheses, some not. Perhaps this relates to a Contact list that has been exported from one device to another and from 16.04 to 20.04, with different contacts being added at different times. The contact list has always been within UT.

I have never dialed a plus sign, living here. Using Google Maps, if I set my VPN to Canada, I see (555) 555-5555, where if set to, for example, France and searching a Canadian business I see +1 555-555-5555.
So in short, even with my language set to Canadian English, I wouldn't have stumbled across any predictions based on phone numbers. It only works for numbers stored with a +, and only if I type the + when dialing.

If it weren't too complicated a change, perhaps if the numeric prediction search dropped all special characters like + and (, it would work more internationally? But I have no idea how feasible this is.
The predictions based on contact name are probably useful to a lot more people anyway, and I don't want to create more work for you. Just trying to be helpful in the small ways that I can by testing and reporting.

Thanks for the feedback, will look at it one day. But i'm surprised prefixes change with language and not timezone

gpatel-fr

@wally

what's the return of

locale -k LC_TELEPHONE

for your phone ?
I get:
tel_int_fmt="+%c %a %l"
tel_dom_fmt="%a %l"