@grenudi said in We Drop Ubuntu Touch Entirely:

500+ device ports versus Ubuntu Touch's approximately 50

uh? I am currently evaluating my options on getting a so called 'smart' phone again without Google and of course Apple, and from what I see PostmarketOS has ONE (1) device that can (more or less) qualify as 'daily driver': the Pinephone. Not sure if it's even compatible with the carriers in MY country.
My understanding is that UT has about 10.
From this point of view, UT has more coverage but if you have lot of credible stories of people using Volla or Google or Fairphone or Samsung devices under PostmarketOS as their daily drivers, I am all ears.
By the way your expletives about the forum are making you seem like a troll. Sorry but that's very much what it looks. This forum is working really well and I'm favourably impressed by NodeBB.

@shano said in Why is Wayland compositor and Lomiri so far in terms of functionality compared to Compiz and Unity7 released some 20 years ago?:

Compiz was released in 2006 and is still maintained. Unity7 was released in 2010 and is still maintained. My question is why Wayland and Lomiri are so far away in terms of functionality, plugins etc. compared to tech made 20 years ago.

Are we building on top or reinventing the wheel?

From what I see, Lomiri is not reinventing Unity 8, it is Unity 8.
I downloaded the Lomiri source code and counted roughly 18000 commits between 2013 and 2017 (end of Ubuntu involvement) and 1400 commits between 2018 and 2025. The main reason is probably that Unity was a business project with serious resources behind it, while Lomiri (the new name for Unity 8 since 2020) is an open source project with a few part time volunteers. Also, it may be that there was so much work in Unity that there is not a lot of new development necessary, the bulk of new work being in other parts of the full (and huge) smart phone stack. I did not count but I think that a large part of these 1400 commits are just translations.

I don't know Compiz but I tracked the project in its last hideout on Gitlab and counted about 30 commits in last 5 years, 20 of them in 2020. It's maintained in the most limited sense, there is almost no development.

@Moem said in Status of the Location Service (GPS, A-GPS, GLONASS, BeiDou, Galileo) ?:

I don't know what any of that means

it's a service provided by Qualcomm

https://calyxos.org/docs/guide/security/network-activity/

http://izatcloud.net/

See an analysis here:

https://ti.qianxin.com/blog/articles/Analysis-of-the-Hidden-Backdoor-Event-in-Qualcomm-GPS-Service-EN/

TLDR: backdoor is too strong a word, but there are privacies issues. If the software is rewritten as open source, this could be less problematic.

@poVoq

hello, not the dev here - but the links are not broken for me. The app is supposed to be based on

https://github.com/luigi311/ConverseJS-ubports

the links are a bit strange though (why not a software forge ? if the author don't like Github, there are other such as codeberg...). It's not stated in the original repo that the author has given up. Personally I'd not use this software without more information.

Duh ! I will close this stoopid post, I had not used seriously a smartphone since several years and did not realize anymore how sensitive to location Gps services are. I tried only in 2 places in my home and both where unsuitable. When I got out in the air, Gps started to work. So it is working, really. I did a stroll this morning and it updated its position. I have still to get my hands to another brand of smartphone on Android to compare with the Fairphone 5 under UT to see how well it is working.

@kristatos said in Smooth Edges (name pending) - Let's Fix the Bugs That Drive You Mad:

if the input is to slow?

FIY I have noticed that disabling haptic feedback was leading to me typing faster. I don't know if it's psychological or if the buzz is really slowing the keyboard. Give it a test if you don't have disabled it yet.

@uxes said in Enabling MAC randomization:

shipped on our system by default

I am not sure that any phone is doing that by default.
It has also a downside for anyone using this phone with ssh, that is, the IP address affected by the Dhcp server (the wifi access point) will change often.
It's not a big deal but it can be annoying.

@GooglyBear said in GPS don't seem to work on FP5 UT 24.04 stable:

a GitLab issue to follow progress for Fairphone 5

AGPS is not really linked to a specific port (even if it can work on some devices it seems, but it's mostly unintended). It's tracked here

@Charly

I have seen one post seeming to say that it was restored in the most bleeding edge version, I can't vouch for it as I use stable, however if you install crackle you can use nix immediately and you can get the nix version of rsync (more up-to-date than the Ubuntu 24.04 version).

https://gitlab.com/tuxecure/crackle-apt/crackle
https://gitlab.com/EricHeintzmann/ubuntu-touch/xiaomi-surya/-/wikis/Install-with-crackle

Once you have crackle running, run 'crackle install rsync' and you are there

@Biplabro said in paste in terminal, clock widget in home screen help request:

in the UT Terminal how to pase a copied command?

long press on the screen then when the menu opens select paste ?

@Biplabro said in paste in terminal, clock widget in home screen help request:

how to activate the big round clock in th UT main screen/ home page widget.

maybe use the uHome add-on ?

@Biplabro said in paste in terminal, clock widget in home screen help request:

how to enable double tap to wake screen

settings / gestures ?

@pparent

thanks for the explanation, it's indeed faster than the more convoluted process I was following. So I did about 6 messages each having 5 photos, lomiri-messaging memory footprint increased steadily by about 100 K for each message (that I never actually sent, it was a dummy number). When I closed lomiri-messaging all this memory was reclaimed by the system, and if I open it again I don't get back the high memory use even if I open the same contact.

So there may be a leak but it hardly seems a blocker on my phone - that is, my current use of the phone is that as soon as I have finished using an app, I close it, and each evening I shutdown the phone for the night. You may use your device very differently of course.

@pparent said in VP22 Upgrade from 24.04-1.0 to 24.04-1.1 failed:

importing a picture with contentHub directly from camera app to Whatsweb (probably works with another app than whatsweb), does reduce progressively the amount of available swap, when done several times,

I tried to repro on my FP5 without success, but of course there are many differences: other phone, more Ram (I have 8 Gb hence a swap of 4Gb) , I don't use Whatsapp or Signal so all the apps available to share in contentHub are files and messages. After a dozen of shared photos, zero swap, available memory in top goes down by one or two hundred of megabytes, then back up.

@pparent said in VP22 Upgrade from 24.04-1.0 to 24.04-1.1 failed:

I've never seen in a top any processes consuming outrageous amount of RAM.

That's very strange. I had kept a copy of top when the dialer had crashed my phone and it was clear that there was a culprit:

top - 21:30:13 up 12:42,  2 users,  load average: 34,25, 47,73, 35,64
Tasks: 618 total,  16 running, 601 sleeping,   0 stopped,   1 zombie
%Cpu(s):  0,5 us, 92,4 sy,  0,0 ni,  1,3 id,  1,7 wa,  2,3 hi,  1,8 si,  0,0 st
MiB Mem :   7294,9 total,     62,8 free,   7216,6 used,     64,6 buff/cache
MiB Swap:   4096,0 total,      0,0 free,   4096,0 used.     78,3 avail Mem

    PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU  %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND
   4265 phablet   20   0  396220   1340      0 R  60,9   0,0   3:03.44 mission-control
    130 root      20   0       0      0      0 R  44,0   0,0   6:10.27 kswapd-1:0
   3334 root      20   0       0      0      0 R  38,5   0,0   6:10.26 kswapd0:1
   4396 phablet   20   0 4640104  29844  17684 R  34,6   0,4   9:03.45 lomiri
   2055 root      20   0   17868    616      0 R  34,3   0,0   1:35.34 wpa_supplicant
   4212 phablet   20   0 2043428   1404      0 S  34,3   0,0   3:20.83 nuntium
   4888 phablet   20   0  407480   1544      0 R  34,3   0,0   2:04.60 lomiri-indicato
      1 root      20   0   25684   3884      0 R  33,0   0,1   2:36.44 systemd
   1399 root      20   0   28280    804      0 R  32,4   0,0   1:09.57 systemd-udevd
   4914 phablet   20   0 1869152   3080      0 S  31,9   0,0   2:53.33 ciborium
  23599 phablet   20   0 9934948   5,0g   1936 R  30,5  70,4   3:16.95 lomiri-dialer-a
   4429 phablet   20   0  957680    612      0 R  29,1   0,0   0:48.45 evolution-addre
  24185 root      20   0  155816  29852     84 R  28,8   0,4   0:46.14 lomiri-system-c

Also do you see kswapd taking a lot of Cpu like in my top ?

@pparent said in VP22 Upgrade from 24.04-1.0 to 24.04-1.1 failed:

the swap itself could be buggy?

It's probably the same software and setup for all ports since it's not linked to Android.

@pparent said in VP22 Upgrade from 24.04-1.0 to 24.04-1.1 failed:

It can be done more or less reproducibility by playing with the camera, and importing pictures to Whatsweb directly from the camera app in contentHub

could you play a little more with 'top' using 'f' and 's' to sort by VIRT or RES to see what is growing exactly, the default sort (Cpu) not being of much use here. If signal-desktop is not the culprit in this case, it may be whatsweb for example.

Note that camerahalserver (that I don't seem to have on my FP5) is part of the Android container so it's not very instructive by itself: on my FP5 all the Android processes have also high level of VIRT (10-12Gb) without causing any swap use.

@pparent said in VP22 Upgrade from 24.04-1.0 to 24.04-1.1 failed:

196.4g

oh, the Ram eater !
Holmes, the game is afoot

@killclique

well, 24.04.1.1 is not there for ever, there will be at some point a 24.04.1.2 and it should get the fix.
For me, the problem is way too fleeting for me to take action, but you can try to fix it yourself by applying the change - I think that you'll need to turn the rootfs read/write for that.

Maybe a workaround could be to disable the screen saver in Waydroid ? I have no idea if this could help (@fredldotme could you have a word on this ?)

@killclique said in VP22 Upgrade from 24.04-1.0 to 24.04-1.1 failed:

when my system black screens

See my reply in your dedicated thread, I think that your problem may be specific to the Fairphone 5 and so be different from the problem as explained by @pparent (who said that the problem occurred without any use of Waydroid).

@killclique said in Black screen of death w/ waydroid:

The problem i think we are having is waydroid not releasing the screen and keeping the screen off

It looks like that. I think now that it is a known problem and the 24.04.1 stable version still misses this fix.

said in Black screen of death w/ waydroid:

I just stopped Waydroid,

Or so I believed at the time. However, when I start the phone and I run

ps fauxww | grep way

I get nothing. When I start waydroid and after running the so-called 'waydroid stop' app, when I run the same command line I see a line with the waydroid container still present. So the 'waydroid stop' app does not in fact stop waydroid, and while I was naively believing it was removed from memory it was still running.
And while repeating the test this morning I still got to the unlock screen and could use the phone, I noticed that the screen was darker than normal, as if the phone was remembering it was half asleep still

@alexanderzhirov said in Problem with updating and working with the app store:

The page opened, although everything loaded very slowly

I remember that at some point I had an extremely low performance cellular link and trying to open the store led to exactly your problem - it never succeeded to open. After switching to wifi where I got at least > 5 Mb/s, the store opened normally. There may be a software problem in the store app when the link is abnormally slow.