@messayisto

I have seen this invalid number in my logs too, so I think it's just an invalid input in address management, nothing related to telephony by itself.

@messayisto said in Call for testing: Ubuntu Touch 24.04-1.1:

Are you interested in the logs from now?

depends, if they are markedly different from mine yes (apart of the phone numbers that you should not forget to mask IMO). I had missed previously that the location where I test is marginal, depending on the windows and doors opened and possibly even weather I can get 5G and if not it's bad 3G or even LTE so I don't know if my log messages are typical and even what kind of connection was actually used when I got a Sms successfully.

It could be interesting as a reference to know if you still see messages such as 'The phone number is not a valid number'

said in Status of the Location Service (GPS, A-GPS, GLONASS, BeiDou, Galileo) ?:

Either I missed something in the config options

actually I missed something even more basic and it is that Gps signal is a lot weaker than phone, so I only tried in 2 parts of my home and I got nothing, but when I got out in the air, the phone eventually found a signal. Thanks to @Vlad-Nirky for helping to correct my foolishness. I have marked as solved the topic I created about that.

Duh ! I will close this stoopid post, I had not used seriously a smartphone since several years and did not realize anymore how sensitive to location Gps services are. I tried only in 2 places in my home and both where unsuitable. When I got out in the air, Gps started to work. So it is working, really. I did a stroll this morning and it updated its position. I have still to get my hands to another brand of smartphone on Android to compare with the Fairphone 5 under UT to see how well it is working.

@peat_psuwit said in Call for testing: Ubuntu Touch 24.04-1.1:

Could you please elaborate on "noise" and "keys"?

the keyboard sound option under 'Langage & Settings'. I solved this (IMO) highly unpleasant sound level by unsetting this option after upgrading. I would 100% have noticed if this sound option was effective (produced this sound) before the upgrade. I am 99% sure I did not enable this option by error (I did not even know it existed).

@peat_psuwit said in Call for testing: Ubuntu Touch 24.04-1.1:

send file journal.log?

attached.
Note that I know why there are deny messages for ntp servers. It's the firewall on my installation (not ufw - a site firewall) blocking ntp for devices on wifi (these devices can only ping and https/https)
journal.log

@peat_psuwit said in Call for testing: Ubuntu Touch 24.04-1.1:

I cannot reproduce this on my FP5

re: rotation: yes as I said in another post, the problem went away on its own after a crash (?) of my phone.

@peat_psuwit said in Call for testing: Ubuntu Touch 24.04-1.1:

Images in the RC channel are actually images from Daily channel being copied to RC channel. So I have no idea why that happens...

yes it's very surprising. Maybe there was something strange with the update process ? did you use it on your device, actually (go from daily to rc) ?

I am in 2 minds of EITHER going back to daily and upgrading again (but if I understand correctly, this would not redo exactly what I did since daily would then not be the same daily that I started from) OR just install the RC directly with the installer and see what happens.

I can wipe my data without problem, I have only 2 days of use and phone & sms history don't matter much to me.

@Vlad-Nirky

thanks for the tip, I have SatStat running since half an hour now on the phone, alas it don't find me any latitude nor longitude. Displays lots of small red bars and says Satellites 0/30, from the few I understand it's not very good :-). Either I missed something in the config options, or the problem with FP5 Gps is too basic for SatStat to solve.

Running Waydroid for the first time on the UT phone is a bit disturbing experience but diving into that would be off-topic here.

@adorsaz

I have tried it on a FP5 and got absolutely nowhere - nothing at all. Got sidetracked by other problems.

I have seen in one Gitlab issue that for some configuration (did not take any bookmark) someone got a resolution speed that could be compared to Android. So it seems that something good is possible when stars are aligned.
Also, from what I understand, A-GPS is something fundamentally different from other Gps services; these services rely on different satellite networks, while A-GPS is software Gps, using existing servers that have Gps coordinates to complete the localization, allowing it to get a result faster still.
I remember having seen on another Gitlab post that some work had started on A-GPS; as I have not seen any announce (that I could have missed of course), I tend to think it's not yet a thing.

I said in Call for testing: Ubuntu Touch 24.04-1.1:

automatic screen rotation does not work for me with RC (FP5)

oh well it's like a very bad movie.
a few minutes ago I found the phone black on my table, I had left it for a few minutes unattended. I expected to wake up by a single press on power button, but I had to press for at least 10 seconds to get a boot. When starting, the phone asked me for the wifi password (it was saved obviously). I declined and completed the boot, after wise I checked the wifi and it was connected with the saved password. In the logs the computer was back on 11 July, after that there was this message:

juil. 11 20:52:59 ubuntu-phablet systemd[1]: Finished snapd.apparmor.service - Load AppArmor profiles managed internally by snapd.
oct. 31 14:54:46 ubuntu-phablet systemd-timesyncd[1009]: System clock time unset or jumped backwards, restored from recorded timestamp: Fri 2025-10-31 14:54:46 CET

and then I noticed that automatic rotation was working again. Yuck.

Sms is still working for me in both directions though, so not all is lost

Edit: forgot to mention that battery is yet far above 50%

@peat_psuwit

automatic screen rotation does not work for me with RC (FP5)

In fairness, I have spent only 2 days with 24.04 stable and one day with 24.04 daily so I can't be 100% sure that rotation worked with daily. However I'm sure that it was working at least with stable.
I think that it was working with daily because it's something one notice very fast normally. And yes the setting 'rotation lock' is disabled and enabling/disabling it did not restore automatic screen rotation.

I did not look carefully in the sensor app at the gyroscope output so I'm not sure if something is wrong here - the changes are happening so fast that it's almost impossible to evaluate.

@Linuxlite76 said in calls and internet:

my mobile date will not work at all

I assume that you wanted to write 'my mobile data', so your meaning is that you can't for example surf on the net with Morph right ? if yes, is cellular data disabled in the settings ? and if you open a shell, can you ping for example 1.1.1.1 and if not is there any change in the output of 'ip a' and 'route -n' before and after the problem ?

@messayisto said in Call for testing: Ubuntu Touch 24.04-1.1:

I can send sms but do not receice.

for me a quick sms receive test worked fine. It's on a FP5, but possibly a more important parameter is that where I am doing these tests, I don't have currently reliable access to 4 or 5G so it's down to 3G or LTE.

relevant parts of the log (with phone numbers masked by hand editing)

oct. 31 13:53:06 ubuntu-phablet ofonod[1824]: incoming sms, 30 bytes
oct. 31 13:53:06 ubuntu-phablet org.freedesktop.Telepathy.ConnectionManager.ofono[4207]: tp-qt 0.9.8 DEBUG: Creating service::channelAdaptor for  Tp::DBusObject(0x557c21d4d0)
oct. 31 13:53:06 ubuntu-phablet org.freedesktop.Telepathy.ConnectionManager.ofono[4207]: tp-qt 0.9.8 DEBUG: Interface "org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Channel.Type.Text" plugged
oct. 31 13:53:06 ubuntu-phablet org.freedesktop.Telepathy.ConnectionManager.ofono[4207]: tp-qt 0.9.8 DEBUG: Interface "org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Channel.Interface.Messages" plugged
oct. 31 13:53:06 ubuntu-phablet org.freedesktop.Telepathy.ConnectionManager.ofono[4207]: tp-qt 0.9.8 DEBUG: Interface "org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Channel.Interface.Group" plugged
oct. 31 13:53:06 ubuntu-phablet org.freedesktop.Telepathy.ConnectionManager.ofono[4207]: oFonoConnection::inspectHandles contact (3, 2)
oct. 31 13:53:06 ubuntu-phablet org.freedesktop.Telepathy.ConnectionManager.ofono[4207]: oFonoConnection::inspectHandles  ("+33783xxxxx", "+33782xxxxx")
oct. 31 13:53:06 ubuntu-phablet org.freedesktop.Telepathy.ConnectionManager.ofono[4207]: tp-qt 0.9.8 DEBUG: Interface "org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Channel.Interface.SMS" plugged

Looking at your log messages, I recognize some of them. I don't have any kind of messages such as:

The phone number is not a valid number:

or:

tp-qt 0.9.8 WARN: Call

did you have these messages before the upgrade ?

I said in Call for testing: Ubuntu Touch 24.04-1.1:

no more hour from the network so I'm back in 1970

update: I have current date/hour again this morning, without doing anything.

When I installed 24.04.1 stable on 28 October, my phone started to display a current date in 11 July. I am not sure why (was it the date when the phone was built ?) It stayed this way (updating only the hour) even after I confirmed that the cellular phone was working by doing a successful call). After I enabled cellular data (why was it off by default ? maybe it was because I installed without SIM and added the SIM after install, but this should not happen in any case ?), my phone updated to current date. I assumed that it was getting the date from the cellular network, but it could just be from ntp in fact.

After that, I installed 24.04.1 daily, nothing to note from the date point of view. It was a new install after re-installing briefly Android to confirm some of the UT problems.

After updating the phone to RC according to the procedure in the topic, no more current date. The cellular data was on, the wifi was working, yet no date was set, I was still in 1970, only after disabling and enabling the wifi (this morning) could the phone get current date. I had noticed yesterday that I got failed attempts to update time through ntp in the system, but I had not thought it was important since I assumed that date sync was happening primarily through the cellular network.

I have again disabled the wifi, stopped and restarted the phone and yet the phone has the current date/hour. I have connected to the phone with adb shell and I have an initial time sync with ntp.ubuntu.com, so it has (I guess...) sync through the cellular data network, however in the log the date was correct before, so the current date has been kept and updated with an internal clock like it is done in a Pc. There are so many parameters, I am not sure of much now.

@johndoe said in Call for testing: Ubuntu Touch 24.04-1.1:

The stable channel is usually the one you want as the end user

stable was the first installation I did, and I switched deliberately to daily to see if any of the problems I noticed on stable would be fixed.

@peat_psuwit

Switched from 24.04.1 daily to RC on my newly installed FP5
Noticed 3 details:

1. the noise generated by keys, for example on unlocking the screen. Fixed it by going to settings and unsetting the option. Either the updated enabled the sound (and it's a bug) or the sound was enabled and it was not generated (in this case a bug was fixed)

2. no more hour from the network so I'm back in 1970. Tried to reboot, switched off and on the cellular data, no change

3. no more Store

I think that 3) comes from 2) in fact (the certificates for all sites are not yet valid)

Given that it's pretty much a disappointing result, I did go to the settings hoping to go back to daily, but unfortunately the possibility does not exist. I'll go to sleep now and if I have no news from you tomorrow in the morning, I'll install again 24.04.1 daily from the installer. I don't have much to lose anyway.

@poVoq

how about ...f-droid ? following the actuality, they seem to not be entirely happy with Google just now. Technically it remains to be seen how complex it would be for them to build native UT apps and how complex it would be for UT to allow native apps installation from a waydroid app of course, something about which I have no idea

Hello

I have tried the following trick to enable it:

https://forums.ubports.com/post/88151

to no avail.

I noticed this post:

https://gitlab.com/ubports/porting/community-ports/android10/xiaomi-poco-x3/xiaomi-surya/-/issues/4

Using
journalctl -b -g "Unknown (group|user)"
I have exactly the same message in the logs of my device, could it be that this fix was not reported ? (note that I have lot of other users also cited, such as 'nfc', 'usb', 'bluetooth')
is there a way to check it by adding the rule by hand ?

Update about 1 days later: I installed 24.04.1 daily, same behaviour. I have added an udev rule under /etc/udev/rules.d, it's seen and handled by the udev service, but it don't change anything. Currently trying to see if it's possible to enter the Android lxc container since I see (using ps) that there is a /vendor/bin/hw/android.hardware.gnss@2.1-service-qti running here and I'm curious if there is any log on what's it's doing or not.

Thanks in advance !

@Ian said in personalize your device, login avatar:

UT only has one user - phablet,

wonder if anyone has tried adduser on a UT system (taking care of using --extrausers of course)
As I have just installed UT I'm not keen on breaking it immediately

@Mario.CH said in Potentially turning a negative of Google's tightening restrictions into a positave:

Here in Switzerland, you still have the option of going to the counter.

I seem to remember that the Swiss central bank had toyed with the idea of using free (not as in beer!) money.
Wait, it seems to have actually happened already:

https://news.itsfoss.com/gnu-taler-swiss-operations/

Possibly this kind of system could be used to minimize risks involved in using such a vulnerable device as a phone (while being also privacy friendly of course). Wish my country could be so forward thinking.

@t12392n

thanks for the explanation.
I wonder how disabled people (the ones that may have trouble using a terminal as small as a phone) fares in this scheme.

Also, unfortunately for Linux devices such as Ubuntu Touch, betting all on a device that has a gigantic attack surface - the smartphone has typically 3 open connections (radio, wifi, bluetooth) and connects to typically one software store with many apps, with automatic update turned on for everything - pretty well ensures that only systems provided by big Daddy Google or big Daddy Apple will be considered secure enough for general use by a population not especially well versed in security. I am going to get a device that will get UT next week but I'm not keen on doing banking on it. Using old kernel and old binary drivers don't seem to be a good thing with so dangerously exposed devices.

@jagdtigger

oh well TIL that Ubuntu is patching network-manager to backup the network configuration changes to netplan. I was sticking to the old advice 'either netplan OR network-manager'.

For your information, network manager is a Gnome thing and wants nothing to do with netplan that is an Ubuntu thing. Since Ubuntu mostly uses Gnome, this patching tries to make for a better config since network manager is deeply integrated into Gnome. Adding OpenVpn and Ubuntu Touch (that don't use Gnome) is not making things much clearer in the corner cases unfortunately.
So I don't find the idea of getting a netplan config invalid or fighting with Network Manager particularly surprising.
I have no idea if just editing the netplan file and restarting netplan with sudo netplan apply will 'stick' in UT.