@O.o.
thanks for your feedback, I'm currentl pondering the same setup.
One thing I have seen on a blog is bothering me a bit:
https://ounapuu.ee/posts/2024/03/06/fairphone5/#2025-04-14-update-im-very-disappointed
it's on FP5 but with the native Android system (not UT), so I wonder if the main blocker for this guy (bad video recording, well apart of the general support troubles) apply also for you: if it's a hardware problem or with the Android binary driver it may be the case.
Sorry for the idle question, but I have seen on this forum a post complaining that Volte was working yes, but there was no feedback for the call routing, in a word, the user was launching the call, waiting in a void, then suddently hearing the voice of the called person. It was not on a Fairphone, it was with a Volla 23 IIRC, but is this a generic problem with current Volte and Ubuntu Touch ?
@shano said in Why is Wayland compositor and Lomiri so far in terms of functionality compared to Compiz and Unity7 released some 20 years ago?:
rather excluding large parts of it.
well, that's a reproach that has been aimed at Microsoft (Windows 
and Apple (Liquid interface).
When you go from a keyboard/mouse interface to something that can only be driven by fingers, you are most likely having to lose some functionality. The hand is a marvelous tool, but to manage a computer it's not always the most efficient. It's not for nothing that voice control has been added more often to phones than traditional computers. Yet clearly for the newer generations the classic computers are almost a curiosity from older times, the phone has won, warts and all.
@shano said in Why is Wayland compositor and Lomiri so far in terms of functionality compared to Compiz and Unity7 released some 20 years ago?:
Compiz was released in 2006 and is still maintained. Unity7 was released in 2010 and is still maintained. My question is why Wayland and Lomiri are so far away in terms of functionality, plugins etc. compared to tech made 20 years ago.
Are we building on top or reinventing the wheel?
From what I see, Lomiri is not reinventing Unity 8, it is Unity 8.
I downloaded the Lomiri source code and counted roughly 18000 commits between 2013 and 2017 (end of Ubuntu involvement) and 1400 commits between 2018 and 2025. The main reason is probably that Unity was a business project with serious resources behind it, while Lomiri (the new name for Unity 8 since 2020) is an open source project with a few part time volunteers. Also, it may be that there was so much work in Unity that there is not a lot of new development necessary, the bulk of new work being in other parts of the full (and huge) smart phone stack. I did not count but I think that a large part of these 1400 commits are just translations.
I don't know Compiz but I tracked the project in its last hideout on Gitlab and counted about 30 commits in last 5 years, 20 of them in 2020. It's maintained in the most limited sense, there is almost no development.
@Moem said in Add "is volte supported" to the devices page:
Fairphone 5 seems to be a good current option,
Thanks !
@Moem said in Add "is volte supported" to the devices page:
maybe you can figure out a way to help.
Well, I have contributed to a few open source projects, but I had the opportunity to run software on my computer, and see what was not working like I hoped, do some fixes and test them before sending them back to the upstream.
Since my last Android phone died a few years ago, I don't have any hardware to test Ubuntu touch. If I buy one, I'd hope that it can be of some use, like I use my computer to read the web, exchange mails, without having to write kernel drivers, so I hope to get a phone that can be used to make and receive calls. As of now, I have no idea if this is really possible. Volla don't seem to be interested in my post. No clear information in this project either.
I tried to browse gitlab, but it's very difficult to find useful information since there are so much repos. I gathered that ofono is the software responsible for phone management, but its repo has not been updated since 8 months. It seems that upstream is on the Linux foundation site and is actively updated, but not from Ubuntu touch developers it seems. So as far as I can understand, UT devs are managing a fork from the original repo and doing changes without publishing them, or in a repo that I was unable to find. This is not very heartening. I had some hope after seeing the FLX1s annoucement, as they were talking about 4G phone use, but now I think that every Linux phone has their own private tree and are not collaborating.
I have still my dumbphone and now I think that I will use it for years to come 
All right. I guess that you are not a developer yourself ? or at least not of the telephony part ?
So you don't have any clear information yourself, only second hand ?
If it is the case, could you at least try to make the devs understand that writing some information about the situation even if with all caveats apply such as 'it worked like this at this point of time' with no warranty about other versions and other providers known to work at this time, could be better than nothing ?
I think of the information asked for by @Lumpology, upgrading it at least one time by month or even per 2 months (even to say that nothing has changed) and at least updating this mystifying part:
Incoming, outgoing callsBugtracker
Calling over VoLTE is not supported, please check that this is not a requirement in your country.
Because well, for an open source project, asking people to get direct access at developers on a proprietary platform like Telegram is not very self conscious. If they want it, that's their call, but in this case they should take some care of giving information by other channels.
It's in the interest of the project because all quotes that can be given on the project state are on your web site, and at this time, anyone can pretend that the project is dying because it can't even support 4G telephony. If you have good news, give them officially so it can be cited, indexed on the Internet.
Thanks.
@Lumpology said in Add "is volte supported" to the devices page:
just a planet icon attached to Incoming, outgoing calls
Yes but it's even worse than that, since this page says unequivocally that it is impossible to do Volte calls.
Yet this is not what is said here:
https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/volte.html
talking about support but only some Volla devices.
Yet there are reports floating of Volte working for other devices (but is it specifically about Volte calling ?)
These seemingly contradictory statements are very confusing.