Questions specific to gestures..."back"
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@haagch There's a separate back button but I guess the mouse back button is better supported in desktop apps.
And yes, it's currently not working in UT. -
Imagine you only had one hand to work with. It's not beyond the realm of possibilities.
That is one scenario, but with a big screen device you would struggle to get across the screen in some scenarios one handed too.
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@undrwater the thing is Ubuntu Touch is a left, top OS.
It would ideal is developers follow the Human Interface Guidelines and stop pushing bottom controls into apps.
And again, there is no «global back» concept because we have the app spread to switch from app to app. And the launcher to launch apps. Of course there's an in-app back, end it is on the top left corner.Another planet, another time, another universe!
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@grenudi OK, Please stop feeding forum posts to your LLM and then posting long sentiment analyses as answers. It pollutes the discussion thread. Consider this your first and only warning.
Here is a place for open discussion, but forcing people to be confronted with AI generated long-winded and bloated responses is an abuse of their time.
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I agree with Cibersheep here.
It's not part of the OS design to have a global back button like Android and not a requirement due to the edge OS controls.
Yes the in-app back being top left is awkward positioning for one handed use but I would find it more annoying that a window was closed/disappeared by accident from some other inconsistent close or back positioning.
I'm not against a top swipe for back on top of the standard style back, like in openstore Timer app but really following the development guidelines and being consistent between all apps is the important thing. -
@CiberSheep to be honest, I disagree here. In my opinion we rather should update our HIG design to cover/allow for other app navigation methods.
For instance OP8T (and another device which I don't remember) has the camera exactly where the back button sits. And this back button IS hard to reach with phones getting larger. This is a problem coming up again and again for a reason.
Yes, there is no universal back, but there is in-app back. -
I've got the 8T, but it's my daily running Lineage OS; but YES, the camera sits right where the back button would be.
I find it interesting that folks have an aversion to these kinds of gestures, but I understand and respect the opinion. Were I capable, I'd look into developing something and make it opt-in.
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@undrwater I think it may not be a general aversion to guestures, but UT already has some implemented. So adding more without breaking something and doing it in a nice way isn't easy.
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In my opinion all bottom (or most) gestures should be optional, meaning their functions should be accessible elsewhere, ideally in the standard or common way like header button.
So basically, gestures are like shortcuts. In this context, we can have a gesture that would be "standard" or consistent across apps. -
@danfro is significative that users only have issues with the app back button, but not with any other ones that are in the same position (menu in TELEports for example).
The camera issue that you are could be solved with the proposition I did for the terrible design that is the notch thing. But I can't be sure as I don't know the model.
Here also comes handy to be able to use the device upside down like the Poco.Also, let's remember that UT is not thought for mobiles, but for all devices.
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