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@libremax You can talk all you want comparing non-profit projects to commercial enterprise. It doesn't cancel the fact that the installer doesn't work in Russia, because the mirrors for whatever reason are inaccessible. Besides, I have said that one shouldn't expect the same level of service from non-profit projects, didn't I? However, functionality of the system does imply functionality for users worldwide.
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@shcarl276 Your belief that commercial services are generally better is mistaken, and your biased comparison with the volunteer "services" provided by the UBports community only serves to confuse the issue.
I am convinced that UBports, as a community, wants its "services" to be easily accessible to everyone in every country around the world, including countries that block or restrict access to its "services".
However, there is no reason to consider this a standard requirement. The actions needed to circumvent the blocks put in place by various countries require the allocation of resources (human, material, etc.).
And so, setting aside all considerations of feasibility, it ultimately comes down to a choice of allocating resources to this issue rather than to another.
A choice, not an obligation.
P.S.: On a personal note, I really hope a solution will be found, especially since so many users in Russia are affected.
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@libremax Wow! Did you go to the same school of public speaking as Donald Trump? You could surely put up some performance on the podium next to him! :)))
First of all, where exactly in my previous post I made a statement that commercial services are "generally better"?
If anyone is confused here about the issue, it's you, not me.
It doesn't really matter what you're convinced about. What matters is how it actually works! Or to be precise how it doesn't. :))))
Did I say anywhere that I "require" something from UBports? Don't make up stuff, which I never actually said.
However, just for the sake of the argument... let's say you want to order something on Amazon. Amazon does have a list of locations where they DO NOT deliver. And whenever anyone connects to Amazon from those locations, Amazon DOES inform them in very clear terms that goods are NOT delivered to those specific locations. Fair enough. Now, let's say you found something on Amazon, and you can't order it, and nobody bothers to explain why...I don't know what you're convinced about (and honestly I don't care), but in the standard business practice (and not only in business) this is called "malfunction of service" or in other words SERVICE THAT IS NOT FULLY FUNCTIONAL.
The same goes for things that are non-profit. Let's say that you set up a charity which aim is to provide people with free bicycle service, RIDE-FOR-A-DAY or something. Now, you give people from some parts of the city normal functioning bikes, and you give people from other parts of the city bicycles with only one pedal. :)))) In theory, it's possible to ride a bike with just one pedal...In practice, however, it's worse than a bad comedy.
And, by the way, I tried installing Ubuntu Touch on three (!) different machines, with three different VPNs (which circumvent the usual restrictions imposed by Russian state). Two of them under Windows, and one with Linux OS. Complete failure in all three cases. Albeit faithfully following all recommendations I could find on Ubuntu Touch site.
It's not that I desperately WANT or NEED to install Ubuntu Touch, and it is certainly not an obligation on the part of this community of enthusiasts TO MAKE SURE that I have it on my phone. But, if it doesn't work the way it supposed to work according to the way it is DESCRIBED on the website (that IS ACCESSIBLE from Russia by the way!)...then it is a service (PAID OR FREE) THAT IS NOT FULLY FUNCTIONAL!!!! That's all. -
Gentlefolks,
It seems that tension is rising for no good reason. Let's leave this be before things get out of hand.
I will repeat what I've said elsewhere: I will bring this subject to the table in the next meeting of the Board of Trustees. That's what I can do and I'll do that.
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@Moem said:
I will repeat what I've said elsewhere: I will bring this subject to the table in the next meeting of the Board of Trustees. That's what I can do and I'll do that.Until a possible workaround is found, it seems appropriate to notify users of the installer.
I have therefore created the following ticket:https://github.com/ubports/ubports-installer/issues/4565
Since other countries may also be affected, it would be helpful to know which ones.
I have therefore created the following thread:That's what I can do, and I did it
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I've got a Oneplus Nord N10 5G, TMobile version, with unlocked bootloader. ROM version is 10.5.8. Didn't find the patched 10.5.7 version for this model.
Got stuck at the step of downloading UT files via UBports installer. Disabled firewall, enabled VPN, but with no success. Did anyone face the same problem?
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The driver seems to be fine
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@linl
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@Keneda yes
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@linl
OK, it seems there are problems, meaning restrictions from maybe your country (or maybe USA, or both, I don't know where the download servers are hosted), that can prevent installer to download properly.Another topic is already opened about this problem.
https://forums.ubports.com/topic/12174/mirrors-for-users-in-russia/21?page=2I'll merge yours with it.
Please be patient, the issue is already known, but UBPorts team don't have much ressources (in any kind) to react like gafams can (but may not), and this may need a new version of installer, servers, mirrors, or whatever.Feel free to read thread and continue here, and maybe go to the russian telegram UBPorts help channel mentioned in previous post.
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