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Send Some: Indicators Love (week 3)

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      CiberSheep @mymike
      last edited by 15 Nov 2018, 22:45

      @mymike You know you don't' need to swap from one to another, if you swipe down on the indicator you want, it expands with that indicator. So the way is no so long πŸ™‚

      Another planet, another time, another universe!

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        dobey @CiberSheep
        last edited by 15 Nov 2018, 23:13

        @cibersheep Yes, I am not suggesting we do an exact clone of GNOME or Android. There are things I don't like about both as well. But really, there's only so much you can fit on a screen, and having too much settings/information in indicators, is just as bad as having too little, if not worse.

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          mymike @CiberSheep
          last edited by 16 Nov 2018, 07:21

          @cibersheep well if you need location you need to pull down on network and swipe left as location icon is not shown as it is not enabled yet.
          and if I'm in the network to switch wifi on and then I want to go to notifications I can: scroll the top bar and tap notifications (but it's difficult to reach with one hand) or I can navigate by press and drag the bottom bar (easier with one hand) but I have to pass through all the indicators. hiding/disabling unused would improve the UX lot IMO

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            A Former User @mymike
            last edited by 16 Nov 2018, 08:16

            @mymike I agree that there are some indicators that I use far more than others, and some I use not at all, so I wonder if it is possible / desirable to be able to customize the top bar? But at the same time be able to reach other settings easily, when necessary. (Actually, it's not that hard to reach any settings really, is it!?)

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              mymike @Guest
              last edited by 16 Nov 2018, 09:03

              @3arn0wl

              (Actually, it's not that hard to reach any settings really, is it!?)

              no it's not. but my proposal would speed up it that means a better UX

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                dobey @Guest
                last edited by 16 Nov 2018, 13:56

                @3arn0wl said in Send Some: Indicators Love (week 3):

                (Actually, it's not that hard to reach any settings really, is it!?)

                Try navigating the indicators using only mouse/keyboard sometime. Remember, we are building a converged platform, and not simply a phone/tablet system.

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                  A Former User @dobey
                  last edited by A Former User 16 Nov 2018, 16:34

                  @dobey Ah! Fair point. (I don't have a keyboard yet, sadly)

                  Edit: The top panel in Unity7 was easy enough to use with a keyboard...?

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                    arubislander @Guest
                    last edited by 16 Nov 2018, 16:58

                    @3arn0wl if you get a male microUSB to Female USB adapter, then any USB keyboard can be used with your UTouch device. (do double check if you need USB 2 or USB 3 on the micro side though)

                    πŸ‡¦πŸ‡Ό πŸ‡³πŸ‡± πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Έ
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                      A Former User @arubislander
                      last edited by 16 Nov 2018, 17:18

                      Thanks @arubislander . I know the one I'd like, but I haven't found it in a shop yet. πŸ˜•

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                        CiberSheep
                        last edited by 20 Nov 2018, 21:21

                        Time is up for this week.
                        Thank you all for you input and idea. It's clear that is not clear where want to arrive. So, let's come back to the subject in the near future.

                        As a resume, I would say we agreed on:

                        • we kind of like the notification
                        • we want them changed
                        • We like them like they are
                        • but different

                        Again: thank you all

                        Another planet, another time, another universe!

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                          A Former User @CiberSheep
                          last edited by A Former User 25 Nov 2018, 11:53

                          @cibersheep

                          Following on from something that was suggested in the Q&A yesterday - a Tor Network button:

                          0_1543146756700_Network Indicator.png

                          If only it were that easy to write and implement the code. πŸ˜•

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                            CiberSheep @Guest
                            last edited by 25 Nov 2018, 15:02

                            @3arn0wl True!

                            Another planet, another time, another universe!

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                              Krille
                              last edited by 26 Nov 2018, 07:56

                              Hm... What about just change the background from black to transparent with blur effect?

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                                A Former User @CiberSheep
                                last edited by A Former User 27 Nov 2018, 13:42

                                @cibersheep
                                Gah! I'm so slow!
                                I've got lots of files on my phone - .md .png etc. - so why don't they show up in the Files Indicator?

                                The distinction between app and indicator, and scope for that matter, seems to be quite blurred.

                                Wouldn't it be cool to be able to have our most-used apps transform into indicators, so that they're there to just pull down.

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                                  CiberSheep @Guest
                                  last edited by 27 Nov 2018, 18:27

                                  @3arn0wl Hehehe... the files indicator is for download (any app that uses the Download Manager to download a file will show in the file indicator, for example, Podbird or the Browser?).

                                  About to make an most used app indicator... I don't think is a good idea, it's not the place for it. You can favorite apps on top of the app scope, or in the Dash πŸ™‚

                                  Don't worry about scopes, they are going away (1 minute of silence) between apps and indicators, I would say if you print a document, you have an app that prints and an indicator that tells you that a document is being printed. On other cases the lines goes a bit away.

                                  Another planet, another time, another universe!

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                                    dobey @Guest
                                    last edited by 28 Nov 2018, 03:05

                                    @3arn0wl said in Send Some: Indicators Love (week 3):

                                    Wouldn't it be cool to be able to have our most-used apps transform into indicators, so that they're there to just pull down.

                                    Please no. We already had this problem of lines being blurred between apps and scopes. We definitely don't need apps sticking around in the top panel and pretending to be indicators either.

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                                      dobey @CiberSheep
                                      last edited by 28 Nov 2018, 03:08

                                      @cibersheep said in Send Some: Indicators Love (week 3):

                                      , I would say if you print a document, you have an app that prints and an indicator that tells you that a document is being printed.

                                      Nope. There is no indicator for printing under unity8. There are only notifications for ink/toner low and such. The old print indicator was basically useless in success cases, so we did not implement it under unity8, but instead only have a daemon which notifies for error conditions.

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                                        A Former User @dobey
                                        last edited by 28 Nov 2018, 08:19

                                        I guess I just don't want this beautiful thing to degenerate into a poor version of what's available already, just for the sake of expediency or lack of resources.

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                                          dobey @Guest
                                          last edited by 28 Nov 2018, 11:46

                                          @3arn0wl Sure. But "less is more" is also true. We don't need to stuff it with every possible thing for indicators to be better. You've got to cut all the fatty tissue out of a steak to get the best parts. No different with software. πŸ™‚

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                                            A Former User @dobey
                                            last edited by 28 Nov 2018, 11:55

                                            @dobey
                                            I know that things change, and we shouldn't cling on to things that people don't want, but we also need to be careful of the direction of change. I'm seeing something that looks like iOS 1.0 this morning. Not where we should be heading, IMO.

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