PinePhone



  • @mymike looks like a fun add-on. Not sure its something we'll try to tackle, as we've got plenty on our plate, but we hope end users and other projects will be happy to create such and other peripherals for the PinePhone. We're trying to expose I2C (via pogo pins) on the PinePhone too, which would also open it up to various applications and custom case-backs, etc.,



  • @mymike said in PinePhone:

    I know it's too early to talk about this but I'd really like to see a passive audio amplifier like fairphone did for its phones

    maybe this can also help with positioning the speaker in a strategic place

    Neat. Looks like something the 3D printing community could do for just about any phone.

    @PINE64 said in PinePhone:

    we hope end users and other projects will be happy to create such and other peripherals for the PinePhone. We're trying to expose I2C (via pogo pins) on the PinePhone too, which would also open it up to various applications and custom case-backs, etc.,

    I'm hoping someone - whether @PINE64 or another company - comes up with a landscape keyboard case for terminal work. So far I've used repurposed Iphone keyboard cases, connecting by Bluetooth, but that's a bit of an ugly hack.

    Edit to add: that ugly hack is also complicated by the fact that I've only found landscape slider keyboards for very old Iphones, and most of them have dead batteries by now. By the time I plug them into a charger battery or other power source, I have enough hardware on my hands that I might as well just ssh in.

    I did recently acquire two Iphone slider keyboard cases with working batteries, but one is a portrait keyboard so not ideal for the terminal (and also takes an oddball charge plug), and the other lacks a dedicated row for numbers. Maybe I should look into 3D printing a larger case and installing a decent battery into the five row keyboards. Or just glue a thin charger battery to the back of those keyboards.



  • @PINE64 I really like the idea of having different colors for different operating systems. Would the different back-plate designs be available separately or to be treated as limited editions exclusive to each batch?

    Another idea could be to have solid colors available to all and printed artwork exclusive to each batch. For instance, the first batch could have a solid purple backing with the orange Ubuntu Phone circle (like in this picture: http://refugeeks.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Ubuntu-Phone-Wall.png).



  • @trainailleur Granted the pogo pin setup works out, I am pretty sure just about everyone will be thinking of making a keyboard case-back.

    @Djhg2000 Not really sure what artwork you have in mind exactly, but casting a cover in a different color (basically just different color plastic) would most certainly be less expensive. Also, we cannot use some of the artwork due to potential problems with trademarks -- that linked Ubuntu image being a good example of what we could not do πŸ™‚



  • @PINE64 said in PinePhone:

    @Djhg2000 Not really sure what artwork you have in mind exactly, but casting a cover in a different color (basically just different color plastic) would most certainly be less expensive. Also, we cannot use some of the artwork due to potential problems with trademarks -- that linked Ubuntu image being a good example of what we could not do πŸ™‚

    I only meant for the picture to be illustrative but now that I read my post again I see that I wasn't very clear about that, sorry for the confusion.

    Basically I wanted to have some recognizable UI element printed on the back so that you could tell what the phone shipped with. Trademarks/copyright could certainly be an issue for some of those. Then again, a solid color should be recognizable enough to the right people. πŸ™‚



  • @Djhg2000 Ah yes. Well, it would be ideal to have a logo of the project in question molded into the plastic. How much work and how expensive that would be is some we won't know for some time. Its just an idea.
    I truly hope that people will also 3D print custom back-covers (and cases) for the PinePhone.
    You can always make your own vinyl skin for the case if neither of the ideas materialize πŸ™‚


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    @PINE64 A transparent one would be cool πŸ˜‰ - ItΒ΄s a project where you should see whats inside, so also give transparency to the hardware hehe...



  • πŸ™‚ A great metaphor, @Flohack



  • @Flohack I really like the idea! Lets hope that the PCB is visible on the actual phone - the mockup has a plastic 'shield' over the fake PCB (probably holds heatsink in place), so all you'd see is black plastic + battery (not super exciting).





  • @trainailleur I wonder if bluetooth on PinePhone will be fully functional, e.g. handsfree calling, bluetooth transfer, as on current devices it doesn't work. Or is it a question for Ubports rather then for PinePhone vendor?



  • @Stefano said in PinePhone:

    @trainailleur I wonder if bluetooth on PinePhone will be fully functional, e.g. handsfree calling, bluetooth transfer, as on current devices it doesn't work. Or is it a question for Ubports rather then for PinePhone vendor?

    Sounds like a UBPorts question, but since it's a "status of porting" question, I'm not sure anyone would answer. It's probably best just to wait and see. Since @PINE64 have said they won't be taking any money on a widespread order until at least one OS is working on the phone (though I think they have now mentioned the possibility of a small "early adopter" batch), we should know more in plenty of time to make an informed purchase decision.



  • @Stefano - as @trainailleur correctly said, this is a question for UBPorts. The hardware can obviously do all the things you asked about.



  • OP updated with info that popped up on the PinePhone Wiki today:

    • Dimensions now 160.5mm x 76.6mm x 9.2mm (up from 157mm x 56mm x 8.9mm)
    • Base model fixed at 2 GB RAM, 16 GB eMMC, with a strong hint of a 3 GB / 64 GB version (@PINE64, can you confirm?)
    • BT included by the WiFi kill switch, addition of camera kill switch, demise of speaker and USB OTG kill switches. (Those who were looking forward to the OTG kill switch for chrarging at public USB chargers might look into USB power-only filters instead.)
    • $150 base price clarified to refer to 2 GB / 16 GB model.

    Of note, the PinePhone will support microSD, so even the base model should have access to greatly expanded (if slow) bulk storage on SD.



  • @trainailleur he he, I can neither confirm nor deny πŸ˜‰ Just kidding. This is something we've been talking about for a little while now. I am pretty sure it won't be a day one option, but yes, its coming down the line. I'll edit this comment for accuracy / additional info if need be.





  • @PINE64 said in PinePhone:

    Posted this month's news update https://www.pine64.org/2019/06/06/june-2019-news-pinephone-pinebook-pro-and-pinetab/

    Fantastic update. Thank you for posting.

    I updated the OP with the new render and the front motherboard layout. Also updated mention of the camera kill switch to include both front and back cameras, which I should have added earlier.



  • @PINE64 I have seen you have added SFOS as well as partner.

    There will be a pine phone batch with SFOS (with Alien Dalvik?) as well or is it just a community (port?) thing?



  • @makeixo The idea with OS-specific PinePhone batches is just a concept at this time. There are a couple of logistic issues (related to reliably getting the OS to the factory well ahead a schedule OS-specific batch release) that need to be ironed out first.

    As for support from Sailfish OS, please join the PinePhone chat (Discord, Telegram or IRC - your choice) or ask in the relevant forum.



  • @PINE64 thx! An easy way to flash the images would do it for me as well if that is possible.


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