Dark Sky

Lakotaubp · 1 Apr 2020, 13:07

Just for those who have missed it Dark Sky is now part of Apple. Existing service contnues till July 1st then apps shut down. Not sure how that will affect those with keys for other projects or services.

AppLee · 4 Jan 2020, 14:43

@Lakotaubp
Thanks for the news.
For more details I found this : https://blog.darksky.net/dark-sky-has-a-new-home/

From what I already read API services are up until end of 2021.
Now I have to find another forecast solution for domoticz...

[Edit] Oh and I had a doubt but it was posted yesterday...

trainailleur · 4 Jan 2020, 17:27

Dark Sky was very good. Lovely.

Thank you @Lakotaubp for spreading the news. I hadn't seen it.

Does anyone have a good suggestion for a replacement on Android that like Dark Sky will run with microG instead of Google Services?

dobey · 1 Apr 2020, 17:46

@trainailleur said in Dark Sky:

Does anyone have a good suggestion for a replacement on Android that like Dark Sky will run with microG instead of Google Services?

I've been using Accuweather on Lineage+microG and it works well so far (though it does have ads).

Lakotaubp · 4 Jan 2020, 19:15

@AppLee Same as @dobey . I find it a bit less user friendly but that's it really.

Edit: Just checked ads can be removed for a small fee. Same as most apps.

AppLee · 1 Apr 2020, 19:35

I found these :
https://superdevresources.com/weather-forecast-api-for-developing-apps/

I'll try out OpenWeatherMap, AccuWeather and Weather Underground.
All are available for domoticz so I'll report back after a week of trial.

hankschwie · 2 Apr 2020, 09:31

It affects Indicator Weather ( https://open-store.io/app/indicator-weather.bhdouglass ) as well. I changed to OpenWeatherMap, You need an API key too, but I hope they will not be bought by Apple or Google :confused_face:

trainailleur · 2 Apr 2020, 16:21

@dobey said in Dark Sky:

I've been using Accuweather on Lineage+microG and it works well so far (though it does have ads).

I used Accuweather in the past. Guess I can give it another try.

@hankschwie said in Dark Sky:

It affects Indicator Weather ( https://open-store.io/app/indicator-weather.bhdouglass ) as well. I changed to OpenWeatherMap, You need an API key too, but I hope they will not be bought by Apple or Google :confused_face:

Will also try OpenWeatherMap again.

Thanks for the suggestions everyone.

AppLee · 8 Apr 2020, 19:13

Hi,
As promised here is my feedback on the weather API I tested.

Quick note, Underground Weather is connected somehow to Domoticz and working with a fresh API key but I couldn't find documentation about it (didn't try so hard though).

So I tested out AccuWeather, Weather Underground and OpenWeatherMap

Now about features:

All offers similar main features such as Temperature+Chill, Pressure, Wind (speed+direction) and Humidity

AccuWeather also offers Gust, UV, Visibility and Rain
Weather Underground also offers Gust, UV, Sun radiation and Rain
OpenWeatherMap also offers Visibility and Cloud coverage

Now here is my feeling regarding data accuracy:

I didn't use a very scientific method.
But regarding temperature I observed that they're all different and can differ by a handful of degrees Celsius.

Regarding humidity WUnderground seems to be more accurate while all the other are mutually consistent.

Regarding rain fall, only WUnderground seems to be correct too (AccuWeather is consistent with Dark Sky but wrong).

But regarding the wind speed, WUnderground stated there was a Hurricane while it was only a strong breeze.
OpenWeatherMap and AccuWeather were mutually consistent and consistent with my observations.

Misc observations:

Somehow WUnderground gives a negative value for dew point (but the absolute value seems right).

Strange thing is also that OpenWeatherMap's gust value is set to 0 when identical to the average wind speed.

While OpenWeatherMap and WUnderground are updated every 10 minutes, AccuWeather is only updated every half hour.
This may be due to the limit of request per day or simply from the API integration to Domoticz.

That's all folks.

Those were observed on Domoticz, I didn't do any coding hence no actual data and only observations.

Lakotaubp · 3 Jul 2020, 17:00

Latest Update the Dark Sky app/service for existing users and subscribers will shut down on Aug 1st as they become part of Apple. Those with active subscriptions will get a full refund forecasts, maps and embeds on the website will also shut down.