Where is librem 5?



  • https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/

    It was in the list and now it is not anymore?
    Something went wrong with purism?



  • @Keneda Maybe in the Deleted Items Recycle Bin... ??? ! strange indeed.



  • I guess no one is working on it, so rather than leave it in to languish and lag behind the rest the choice was made to remove it.
    Last I heard none of the devices promised to the devs by Purism ever materialized. And with the totally outlandish price point (in my opinion) purchasing one just to port would seem out of the question.



  • Very sad story, can't understand purism behavior...



  • In hindsight it would have been better if Purism had partnered with a hardware company like Pine64 to make the phone. There are people who said so early on.
    They did good concerning the software, it's open source and upstreamed for the most part. That is why we can see Phosh coming to the PinePhone too. I think the PinePhone will contribute more to the popularity of Phosh than the Librem5



  • It also would have helped if they had been honest about timelines from the beginning, instead of waiting until the last minute to mention delays, and to have been honest about problems and failures instead of blatantly lying about having met deadlines, shipped devices, etc. Their founder/CEO seems to have bitten off more than the company could chew but also seems unwilling to admit to that or to any of the consequences.

    I pledged to the Librem 5 not expecting Purism to succeed but thinking it a worthy cause, and I had intended to leave my money with them come thick or thin. In the end however, the endless deception and spin coming from their leadership so turned me off that I requested and received a refund, back when they were still giving them.

    That I and so many others did that can't have helped with their problems (and is likely the reason they no longer offer refunds), but they could have avoided it by being open and honest instead of ceaselessly patting themselves on the back for things they claimed to have achieved but had not and trumpeting about their own transparency when they were being anything but transparent.

    Though it's probably not a direction I want to go myself, Phosh seems like pretty good work for such a short timeline, and I too believe they should have partnered with hardware vendors with mobile and ARM experience, and that more people will end up running it on the PinePhone, even if Purism doesn't go bust.



  • Really sad to read these things. I joined the Librem5 crowfunding only because seemed there was an agreement with UBports. I'm using an Aquaris E5 HD that works fine but with a 'old and slow hardware'. I was really excited from the Librem5 idea. I should receive my phone for the end of this summer (I hope). Reading your messages seems me to understand that I'll not see UBTouch on it



  • @MV said in Where is librem 5?:

    Really sad to read these things. I joined the Librem5 crowfunding only because seemed there was an agreement with UBports. I'm using an Aquaris E5 HD that works fine but with a 'old and slow hardware'. I was really excited from the Librem5 idea. I should receive my phone for the end of this summer (I hope). Reading your messages seems me to understand that I'll not see UBTouch on it

    Purism claim that once they start shipping final devices they will again enable refunds for pre-orders. I cross my fingers on behalf of people who still have their money locked up with Purism and hope this comes true. Maybe Purism will ship a good device in the end, but if not, it would at least be good if those who supported them from the beginning could get their money back out.


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