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Privileged ICE contacts and medical information available on lockscreen [WORK IN PROGRESS]

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      A Former User @3T_Ed
      last edited by 5 Aug 2020, 11:06

      @3T_Ed Looks awesome mate! Hats off! :sign_of_the_horns_light_skin_tone:

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        3T_Ed @Guest
        last edited by 5 Aug 2020, 11:46

        @C0n57an71n , @Moem

        Hey guys, the screenshots are from the Windows 10 mobile app I used. I am not a developer, so the only way for me to help getting this ICE feature The collages have been posted here to give you an idea and have it available for discussion so that @syper will have a relative good idea for the final version, reducing the time for him to spend on details.

        Re hair and eye color, I really wouldn't know other than a way for emergency services and bystanders to identify the one in need for help corresponds with the owner of the phone and his ICE data

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          Moem @3T_Ed
          last edited by 5 Aug 2020, 11:48

          @3T_Ed said in Privileged ICE contacts and medical information available on lockscreen [WORK IN PROGRESS]:

          the screenshots are from the Windows 10 mobile app I used.

          Ow. That had me confused for a moment, thanks for explaining. It is indeed good for reference.

          Is currently using an Op5t
          Also owns an Op1, a BQ E4.5 and an Xperia X, as well as a BQ tablet and a Pinetab2. Please, someone... make it stop.

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            A Former User @3T_Ed
            last edited by 5 Aug 2020, 11:56

            @3T_Ed 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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              3T_Ed
              last edited by 5 Aug 2020, 13:39

              Only wish I had the skills to make this happen, sorry guys for bursting that bubble 😁

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                Rondarius
                last edited by AppLee 9 Sept 2020, 17:23 9 Sept 2020, 16:49

                Hi
                Finally I got an answer from NHTSA and here it is:

                Thank you for proactively reaching out to NHTSA to use the Star of Life symbol. If you choose to use the Star of Life symbol itself, or a close iteration of such, you'll need NHTSA's permission to do so. The guidance for using the symbol is found on www.EMS.gov at: https://www.ems.gov/vgn-ext-templating/ems/sol/HS808721.pdf

                If you choose to not use the Star of Life symbol, you will not need to seek our permission.

                Unfortunately, the NHTSA Office of EMS is unable endorse one product over another. Since the In Case of Emergency (ICE) program is not one of our programs, we won't be able to create an alternative to the Star of Life symbol.

                I hope this helps and please call me at xxx-xxx-xxx if you'd like to discuss this further or proceed to get permission from NHTSA to use the Star of Life symbol.

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                  AppLee @Rondarius
                  last edited by 9 Sept 2020, 17:25

                  @Rondarius I took the liberty to edit out the phone number and the contact name.
                  This is a public place and it is sensitive personal data.
                  If we need to get in touch PM will be the way 🙂

                  Thanks a lot for your initiative and your time. 👍

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                    Rondarius
                    last edited by 9 Sept 2020, 17:25

                    I guess that this was what Dave meant whit "not our project":

                    https://incaseofemergency.org

                    I guess that it's either or both, the blue/red icon and the polarbear that is the official symbol.

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                      Rondarius @AppLee
                      last edited by Rondarius 9 Sept 2020, 17:29 9 Sept 2020, 17:28

                      @AppLee No problem, I understand. The name is official, I found it on their homepage too.

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                        3T_Ed
                        last edited by 9 Sept 2020, 19:32

                        @Rondarius

                        Great to see the NHTSA has replied and the reply is clear on the do's and don'ts. Thank you again for taking the time and sharing.

                        What do you propose we use as a logo?

                        The easiest way imo would be to use the objective/non-copyright alternative SOS logo (directly available from the emoji database).

                        If we were to do it the right way (read: most commonly known amongst emergency services) we should contact NHTSA, ask for their permission and adopt the exact same Star of Life as depicted in the filed one (with or without serpent, with or without the ICE marking in the Star.

                        With the document at hand I don't see any point in proposing another design as we would then need to go through NHTSA anyway because of the usage of the 'Star' to make it legit.

                        If needed the logo/icon can be changed later on.

                        We should make a decision and hopefully someone (@Syper ?) can continue to work on the ICE feature and get the app to the next level.

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                          Rondarius @3T_Ed
                          last edited by 9 Sept 2020, 20:29

                          @3T_Ed How about keeping the original icon but adding ICE within the white cross. Something like this:

                          0.2_ICE.png

                          This is just a mockup, the cross should be more to the left. I made the cross a little bigger, just so that the text gets bigger.

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                            3T_Ed @Rondarius
                            last edited by 9 Sept 2020, 21:08

                            @Rondarius

                            It's not the design of the icon showed in the OpenStore that I really care about.

                            It is important that the icon in the topbar and on the lockscreen or underneath the Lomiri Circle*). People might get bored by this discussion by now but I can't stretch enough that it should really stand out.

                            The icon should be simple and easy recognizable when the phone is in the hands of bystanders and emergency services after that. The current icon (Heart + Cross + ICE) isn't.

                            *) I know @Flohack dismissed that option for now, however I hope that people will see the importance of this feature to have it imbedded in the lockscreen in an update soon.

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                              Rondarius @3T_Ed
                              last edited by 10 Sept 2020, 18:19

                              @3T_Ed said in Privileged ICE contacts and medical information available on lockscreen [WORK IN PROGRESS]:

                              People might get bored by this discussion by now but I can't stretch enough that it should really stand out.

                              Maybe, maybe not. If we feels that it is something worth discussing and the mods don't bann us for it :face_with_tears_of_joy: , then I don't see any problems with it.

                              Is it possible to make animated icons?
                              I haven't seen any.

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                                3T_Ed @Rondarius
                                last edited by 3T_Ed 9 Oct 2020, 19:09 10 Sept 2020, 18:54

                                @Rondarius said in Privileged ICE contacts and medical information available on lockscreen [WORK IN PROGRESS]:

                                Maybe, maybe not. If we feels that it is something worth discussing and the mods don't bann us for it :face_with_tears_of_joy: , then I don't see any problems with it.

                                :beer hug:

                                Is it possible to make animated icons?
                                I haven't seen any.

                                On the lock screen you mean?
                                Probably yes, if customization of the lock screen could become a reality. Some may not appreciate it when being that present though. On the other hand, if it would be an optional feature....why not? After all this is Ubuntu. And I'd be in favor for anything (subtle) that would make ICE stand out. Any ideas?

                                Edit: Keeping a close watch on what is happening in the Calendar thread because of the somewhat similar request.

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                                  Rondarius @3T_Ed
                                  last edited by Rondarius 9 Oct 2020, 19:10 10 Sept 2020, 19:08

                                  @3T_Ed
                                  Maybe, I will try to make a gif of what I am thinking of. Yes I saw what was posted in that thread.

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                                    3T_Ed @Rondarius
                                    last edited by 10 Sept 2020, 19:10

                                    @Rondarius
                                    Great, looking forward to it!

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                                      Rondarius @3T_Ed
                                      last edited by Rondarius 9 Nov 2020, 16:55 11 Sept 2020, 16:31

                                      @3T_Ed Here is a mockup, this is the first time I have made a GIF, sorry for the bad quality :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

                                      Hmm you're not allowed to post gif, I find another way.

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                                        Rondarius
                                        last edited by Rondarius 9 Nov 2020, 17:04 11 Sept 2020, 17:03

                                        @AppLee Would it be ok if I posted the gif in the Ubports overflow telegram group?
                                        @3T_Ed Do you have Telegram?

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                                          3T_Ed @Rondarius
                                          last edited by 11 Sept 2020, 17:17

                                          @Rondarius said in Privileged ICE contacts and medical information available on lockscreen [WORK IN PROGRESS]:

                                          @3T_Ed Do you have Telegram?

                                          Message sent

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                                            Rondarius
                                            last edited by Rondarius 9 Nov 2020, 17:39 11 Sept 2020, 17:39

                                            UT_bubbles_ICE.jpg

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