I Need Help Understanding VoLTE and Touch
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@moem
I know, but I meant that in general the need for VoLTE in the future might be the same thing as the need for MMS at the moment : Different per country
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@nero355 All modems keep the specific network modeling software in the modem, to include VoLTE network modeling. Some, also keep the software that negotiates when to activate which network type, VoLTE or legacy networks, in the modem. The rest, keep that part external in the base OS.
I do not follow Sailfish, so not sure what they are saying, but the UT developers have stated several times that Mediatek will be first. Inquire in the main UT Telegram group for updates on that. They have been busy with the 20.04 upgrade, so there has not been a lot of VoLTE news lately.
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@nero355 said in I Need Help Understanding VoLTE and Touch:
The MMS standard is dead, but it seems that people are still using MMS in Northern America while the standard is pretty much dead in most countries in Europe
MMS is far from being dead, as it's the only really crossplateform way to send multimedia messages between any device out there.
In France, any plan from any providers, even plan with only 2 hours voice an 50Mo data, have unlimited SMS and MMS, so you can send messages and things, without any data loose or extra cost.
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@rocket2nfinity said in I Need Help Understanding VoLTE and Touch:
All modems keep the specific network modeling software in the modem, to include VoLTE network modeling. Some, also keep the software that negotiates when to activate which network type, VoLTE or legacy networks, in the modem. The rest, keep that part external in the base OS.
I do not follow Sailfish, so not sure what they are saying, but the UT developers have stated several times that Mediatek will be first. Inquire in the main UT Telegram group for updates on that. They have been busy with the 20.04 upgrade, so there has not been a lot of VoLTE news lately.
It was about the development of the oFono project I believe and IIRC and understood correctly they said it was easier to develop the Qualcomm stuff first and then take their time for the MediaTek stuff
@keneda said in I Need Help Understanding VoLTE and Touch:
MMS is far from being dead, as it's the only really crossplateform way to send multimedia messages between any device out there.
I know, but it's not the huge success all the providers thought it would be...
In France, any plan from any providers, even plan with only 2 hours voice an 50Mo data, have unlimited SMS and MMS, so you can send messages and things, without any data loose or extra cost.
That's cool for you guys but over here in The Netherlands the last time I wanted to use MMS my phone simply said : Disabled by the provider!
So like I said earlier : It's different per country because in many countries no one used it so the providers gave up on it completely...
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@rocket2nfinity I thought the 20.04 upgrade would upgrade ofono, which then would work with VoLTE?
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@totalrando - VoLTE to my understanding often relies on modem specific proprietary blobs, so simply updating ofono will NOT enable VoLTE - far more work is needed to get it going, and it is possible that some devices will not be able to get VoLTE support, even after it gets implemented for some.
Best regards,
Steve Berson -
@totalsonic Looks like I've got about 12 days left before SFOS and Ubuntu Touch stop working for voice calling due to 3G phaseout by my US MVNO.
Last Spring I was hoping one project would have beat the deadline, but that's not gonna happen. Really don't want to use Android. -
@robthebold Droidian is an option. VoLTE works
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@totalsonic said in I Need Help Understanding VoLTE and Touch:
@totalrando - VoLTE to my understanding often relies on modem specific proprietary blobs, so simply updating ofono will NOT enable VoLTE - far more work is needed to get it going, and it is possible that some devices will not be able to get VoLTE support, even after it gets implemented for some.
From what I have understood so far :
Qualcomm based phones should get the support a lot easier than the MediaTek based ones because of the difference in the Modem part of both SoC brands.
The Qualcomm modem does more things by itself so to speak and because of that oFono should be able to support those SoC's earlier than the rest!
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@nero355 - the current work being done to enable VoLTE for Ubuntu Touch is prioritizing Mediatek support, as this development is being led by Volla, which uses those soc's - info here - https://www.jeroenbaten.nl/UT-VoLTE-proposed-technical-architecture.pdf
Best regards,
Steve Berson
